Stiletos

I am coming back to this game after about 5 years and seeing as how the community has mostly moved over to support for SE and my reading that SE works better on Window's 10 for mods (use, not creation) I purchased SE and am doing a complete rebuild. My first question is what mod organizer is best for getting Sexlab and Defeat running smoothly? I was using NMM previously and dabbled with MO1. Now it seems Vortex has replaced NMM and MO2 is now in place of MO1. Does one of these work smoother on getting a working non-crash setup going? I want to set up things with similar mods to what I had before. This will include Sexlab, Defeat, animations, CBBE, hairstyles, outfits, and the usual SKSE, FNIS, physics mods, and the other stuff that makes things work. I will use either Enhanced Character Edit or Racemenu (could use some guidance on this, I was into ECE before as I liked the YGNord race but it seems a lot of mods now require Racemenu so it might be a better mod for getting things to work? Any advise would be most appreciated. I know I am looking at a few hours to set things up and I want to ensure I start off on the right path with the right organizer. Thanks

I quit playing Skyrim many years ago now but have decided to get back into it. The actual Skyrim gameplay and Sexlab/mods (defeat, CBBE, Racemenu, hairstyles, ect...) will both be a focus. Right now I own the vanilla "Legendary" version of the game and will be upgrading to either SE or VR. If people can help with a few answers to some questions that would guide the decision. 1) How does Sexlab/Defeat mesh into VR? Do you see the scenes all via first person? Do the scenes flip to third person? Can you toggle/choose how it is viewed through the headset? I would be curious on this from the POV of both victim and attacker and whether the VR version of Skyrim adds a more immersive experience while not losing the "scene" as you cannot see most of what is actually going on. Are there "scenes" in Defeat that have been specifically created for, and take advantage of the first person POV in VR? 2) Is modding Skyrim VR as straightforward as modding the SE version? A simple dump of mods into Mod Organizer for either? Is it buggy or pretty streamlined at this point? 3) For SE I know there are a ton of clothing options, followers, hairstyle mods, race mods and body changers ported over. Does VR have a pretty good selection of the mods? For things like clothing and the like do you need VR versions of the mods or will clothing mods from the standard version of Skyrim load into the VR version? My thoughts are that VR Skyrim would be a fresh change for the normal gameplay. A fun way to play through a game I have gone through many times. If the Sexlab side of things works really well and does not lose most of the graphical aspects of the "scenes" and adds that immersion to being right in a scene it is win/win. If Sexlab suffers under VR though that would be a hard pass as it is a important aspect of my time in Skyrim and one of the key reasons I am getting back into it. Thanks for any information from those who have experienced all of this and know the positives and negatives to each.

Still working on trying to sort out why I cannot view these specific animations. I was wondering if anyone knows if when you run FNIS SLAL and/or the packs is listed in the "reading" list? I have Non sexlab animation pack, Zaz, Estrus, ect... showing up on that list but no SLAL. I am wondering if the non-sexlab animation pack or Sexlab itself has the Leito animations included and that is how they are able to work while the Funnybizness do not. SLAL shows up on the MCM, I can click on register, they show on the Sexlab animation list and I can select them to run for the aggressive scenes, but while the non-Funnybizness animations like Leito play fine as do the stock sexlab animations, when a Funnybizness animation tries to start the characters just stand there. When I try to move my character using the 7 second move and the scene attempts to restart you can see the character jerk into a very brief instant of the standing rape from behind scene where her arms are held down by her sides and then it is back to her and the attacker just standing there while you hear the sound effects and voice of the rape scene. I use MO and have installed everything through that. I have probably spent 10 hours now uninstalling things, reinstalling, attempting to scour the forums to find someone with a similar issue. Can anyone think of anything that might be wrong? It seems I am definitely in the minority as this seems to work for most people, I will attempt to get any and all information anyone might need to help, I am at a loss.

I cannot seem to get these animations to actually animate in the game. I installed the SLAL, the Funnybizness pack, FNIS, and went into the MCM and registered the animations in Sexlab and they are visible on it. When I hit a Funnybizness animation my character makes a blip like an animation is about to start and then both her and the attacker just stand there while you can hear the sound effects and voices of the event but neither moves. I also installed the Leito animations and they seem to run fine, I can actually use the skip animation button and cycle through all of the Funnybizness animations while the characters don't move and once a Leito one or other animation is hit the animation will actually play. I know it is all the Funnybizness animations not playing due to any time I get no animation to show up I go to Sexlab and look at the current animation and the only ones that don't play are from this pack I am stumped as to what the problem is. I tried to restart a new character, and I even started a non-YG Nord to see if it was an issue with that particular race. I am stumped, but on the previews of these animations they look awesome and I am very much hoping to get them to work,

I have to figure that on this forum people are pretty sexually liberal. I cannot fathom many people on a forum like this judging "other" peoples sexual orientation and/or desires...

Rest assured there are those of us that love the direction you are going. In fact given your interests I wonder if you might be into some Falmer Animations that have a little more of a violent feel to them. Based on the stock Skyrim stuff on the race we already know they like to chain down and torture people. Seems like a race that would get into some pretty serious rape/torture. Some scenes that have two or three stages of stripping/beating/struggling the victim, eventually leading to them being too exhausted to fight back and eventually leading to a crying painful humiliating rape. The Falmer are always the one race I really thought a massive gang rape would be a scene from the worst of the worst of sex, bondage, and torture all rolled into one. I am not sure if it is even possible but can multiple creatures be used in a single scene? Can you have two Falmer hold down a victim while a Charus mounts and rapes the victim?

Awesome work on the animations. I am especially very happy to see the great new non-consensual content where you really managed to capture the attempted struggles of the victim in the start followed by the shame and despair at the end of it all holding their hands over their eyes and crying.

I know you are not actively taking requests but as you are working on spanking animations I was wondering/hoping if you might be doing something along a specific direction. All of the spanking animations we have thus far as largely the teasing/foreplay style. I would love to see a more aggressive spanking animation that is meant to stop the struggles of a very unwilling/struggling rape victim during the capture, forcing to the ground, stripping, and mounting of the victim. Something where struggling victims are attempting to push their attackers off of them, grabbing their clothes and trying to pull them to keep them on while the attackers are attempting to remove them. Often the attackers will stop trying to pull the clothes off or stop trying to spread the victims legs for a moment and will instead move back and spank the victim hard on the thigh or bottom, sometimes a single strike real quick and the victim in the shock and pain of that stops their struggles for a second and the scene of clothes removal or mounting continues. The victim still lays there and cries and they might squirm but they do not fight back like they were. For a more aggressive scene it would be awesome to see a scene that starts off as a rape attempt, the attackers attempt to remove the cloths and force the victim down but she scratches and fights and when on her back kicks at the attacker with her foot and almost manages to push herself back and to her feet only to have the attacker grab her left leg in his right hand and pull her back towards him along her bum. He quickly puts her left leg in his left hand and pulls her leg over her other leg forcing her over onto her right side, almost over on her stomach with her bum now exposed.. The attacker mounts her legs with one of his leg on each side of hers so she cannot move her legs, grabs her left arm that she is trying to use to push him back and pins it to the ground in front of her with his own left hand, and he then start spanking her exposed bum hard with his right hand as she squirms and struggles and cries and jerks at the strikes. You could also move into a second spanking stage where he stops spanking her, uses his right arm to grab the back of her neck and force her over onto her stomach, while using his left hand that was holding her own left arm pinned to the ground to bend her arm back up and across her back and push down on it pinning her down. Now he is beside her, she is flat on her stomach with her left arm twisted behind her across her back and she cannot move. The attacker starts spanking her again, her legs are free and she tries to bring them up to block the blows but the attacker pushes them away hard and immediately strikes her again, the scene continues and after the first few times she tries to use her logs to block the blocks only to have them pushes away and get struck hard she only weakly licks out and squirms at the further strikes until the scene ends. That type of spanking scene would be a "great" lead-in to a rape The victim having been spanked into submission. Another spanking/striking scene that would be awesome and very much within the lore would be a few different group spanking/choking/beating attack animations by the Falmer. The Falmer are clearly quite sadistic in the game and like to bind people and do nasty things. I could see some great potential for animation scenes with single Falmer spanking and choking a victim and even better, group Falmer attacks where scenes of 3 and 4 Falmer attack the victim and the victim is held down by one or two, choked, beaten and spanked all at the same time in a variety of changing positions. A scene in stocks that starts off with two Falmer attacking a lady, with one spanking her brutally at the back and another grabbing her hair and holding her head up by the hair with one hand and slapping her across the face with the other all at the same time. The Falmer at the front transitions to forcing her to perform oral in the next stage with the spanking Falmer goes to a animation that consists of one hard spank, following by running her bum, and then sticking his fingers inside her for a couple seconds until pulling them out and giving her another hard spank (and this would cycle between the spank, bum rub, and fingering in that scene). The next stage would be the Falmer at the back ramping up and viciously spanking the victim rapidly and hard as the oral onslaught at the front continues for a few seconds and nears the Falmer receiving the oral's release, ending the stage in the Falmer pulling out and while still holding her face up by her hair with one hand holding his penis with the other and orgasming all over the victims face, at the same time the spanking at the back pauses and is simply some butt rubbing while the release occurs. The Falmer in particular are a phenomenal race for these types of scenes, they are scary sadistic monsters that live deep in dungeons where no one is coming to rescue anyone. Their lore in the vanilla game even makes them out to be very sadistic and prone to torture and bondage.

Sorry all but I have to ask a few noob questions, been working on this for hours now. I am not sure how to start many of the animations for this mod. I opened the MCM but in the ZAP section I cannot seem to click on the animations under the sexlab section and get them to work. Most of the animations for rape scenes work through defeat and such. I have been able to run many of the solo (no attacker) animations for various tools such as the torture pole, gibbet, ect using player.playidle ZaZAPCAO001 and such. All of the 001 to 500 animations and items work as far as running them using player.playidle. It even worked as far as getting the Furo Trap going using player.playidle ZAZAPFSA001-008 But I cannot figure out how to run any of the ZAZ and ZAP files to do with the milking machine and spanking chair as I have not found a input to activate such things. I wrote virtually everything from the text file for ZAP down and I have all of these ID's like ZaZAPFDOTK00BEnter and ZaZAPFDOTK00SPB and Zaz...01SPB through to Zaz...03SPB but I have not been able to get them to do anything using player.playidle. I ran the coc zbftestzone and got into the test dungeon, and I can enter the milking machine, but even when in it I cannot figure out how to activate the animations, my character just sits there. In the ZAP in the MCM I still cannot activate it from there even when in the machine. I am also curious, are there sequenced animations for the animations for the FUTA Tub monster? I can run each animation manually through the command console but I do not have a clue how to run the sequence automatically from beginning to end. The last thing I would really like to figure out is the knee spanking and chair spanking animation. The only one I have been able to see is the one used on the pillory, which I "can" run through the MCM if I target a NPC and click on the ZAP animation in sexlab and activate it there, but it will also not work in the ZAP menu, only from the actual sexlab menu... Can anyone help me out? I am lost.

Absolutely phenomenal. That was exactly my issue, changed that ESP file and it works perfectly now on my new character. Thank you very much! You have made my day with this.

As an addition to the above, I started a new character to "fix" some other issues and most of the stuff in Sexlab and associated mods now work. But, I cannot get the bunny suit. I type "help bunny" and I simply get a list of general commands for Skyrim. I do not get the information on the mod itself or the way to view the exact numbers I need to enter to enter to get the pieces. I checked and all of the files are installed into Meshes, Textures, and the ESP file is in the data folder. Once upon a time I got this mod to work but after upgrading my computer and reinstalling everything I have never gotten this to install properly and the only time I can ever see a suit is on an old character if I pull up a old saved load. This is depressing because this is likely my favorite suit of all time.

I am stumped. I have defeat working with creatures in single attacker rape scenarios but multiple attackers does not work. I have creatures enabled in the MCM for sexlab, and in defeat I have creatures enabled in the main menu and multiple creature attacks is enabled and at 100% chance. I disabled all of the single attacker options in sexlab just to attempt to force the gangbang animations but I simply get a pause in the action when I hit the key to surrender or get hit under the threashhold and then the attack continues. I do not have a menu in the "creatures" section of the MCM, I can click on it but it is blank. Anyone have any ideas what might be wrong? With the Falmer single attacker animations working flawlessly I am at a loss at this point why the multiple attacker animations are not...

Hello, first off want to say this is a phenomenal suit, my favorite piece of mod clothing in Skyrim. I had this working well on a previous computer and have recently switched to a new rig and am having serious issues with crashes. Mods I run that are relevant are.. XP32 Skeleton (tried both the 2.06 and 1.93 legacy versions) CBBE 3.3 Enhanced Character Edit 1.2 Realistic Ragdolls and Force 1.9 I have tried both files for the bunny suits, the CBBE one and the BBP one (which oddly worked for me before using CBBE...) ATM I can go into an old character built when I had my prior computer and the suit is on. The character's face is missing sadly (completely gone) so I just have a body, hair, and clothes with no head). If I try to run showracemenu with the suit on I can scroll through different races "until" I click on the YGNord race, then the game crashes. I can take the suit off, run the showracemenu and go to a YG nord and build one fine, but after building it if I try to put the suit on again the game crashes. So this looks like it might be linked to the ECE somehow and the YGNord race, anyone have any idea what might be the issue?

One thing that might be really easy to work into animations would be bondage. Specifically the bondage animation from the beginning of the game. The hands tied behind the back could make for a lot of decent rapey animations where the character is more subdued. That hands behind the back posture would work great on both standing and kneeling forced blowjobs, forced cowboy (reverse and regular), forced doggy style with the hands held behind the back (as in one of the beast rape scenes) and many others. It would work great for some of the softer foreplay scenes. Many of the kissing scenes would be quite interesting with the victim bound and being forced to smooch. It could also be a cool intro to a stripping scene with the victim bound and standing there and the attacker approaching the victim and stripping them in a few moves that are obviously removing different clothing articles. **************************************************************************************** I also wonder if there is perhaps a chance of seeing various "scenes" linked into one another to form a longer sexual experience? What I mean is currently we have stages within one scene. Some of the scenes are sex scenes and some are foreplay scenes. It would be very cool to be able to choose a setting in Sexlab that played a opening foreplay scene that was then aiutomatically followed by a sex scene. So you would transition from the foreplay to a new sex scene. If proper stripping animations were to be made that were story specific (some consensual sex, some rape themed, ect...) then you could link 3 scenes into one full session. Have an opening stripping scene followed by a foreplay scene and ending with a sex scene. Each scene would have their multiple stages. The various scene types coudl each have catagories. Right now we have aggressive sex and can choose the animations we want to be possible in that group. If multiple scenes were allowed we could have aggresive sex, aggresive foreplay, and aggressive stripping, and we could click each scene we want to have a chance to play in each of the various sexual encounters. Much as we currently choose the active animations for consensual, aggressive, and beast sex. We would have 9 catagories instead of 3. Consensual sex animations Consensual stripping animations Consensual foreplay animations Aggressive sex animations Aggressive foreplay animaions Aggressive stripping animations Beast sex animations Beast stripping animations Beast foreplay animations ( some beasts such as Falmer might have quite sinister/violent ideas of foreplay, vampires would likely include blood drinking from various areas of the body prior to sex)

Not sure if this has been discussed here already as I have not read the whole 9 pages. I want to see more race/area specific rape sequences that players get themselves into only in specific in game situations. Examples 1) Falmer rape. If there was ever a race that would likely rape you this is probably the one. They have their own bondage/torture beds that already look like something out of a Estrus animation all ready to go. I honestly cannot see the Falmer NOT capturing a young adventurer who dared trespass into their domain, bind her to their rack, and have their way raping her. This seems like a clear area/race specific rape scene that should potentially take place when in Falmer areas. I would think it might be easier to create the bondage/rape rack as part of the animation akin to what Estrus does and then simply work in the animation with the NPC Falmer. 2) Tree rape. It was back in the good ole 80's that many of us first saw a tree attack a woman, wrap it's vines around her arms and legs, pull her to the ground, yank one arm out to the side, and then the other, rip her clothes off, slowly pull her legs apart and she helplessly struggles against it, and then ram a large branch into her and start thrusting. Ahh Evil Dead.... This type of scene could he epic for fights in specific areas like forests, and perhaps specifically when fighting against Spriggans. One could have a few different animations, from the more tame Evil Dead type of attack and perhaps going full on into more recent style Japanese tentacle attack types of scenes where there is a buildup from the first penetration, to a full out eventual triple penetration and ejactulation event. 3) Troll/giant rape. Another thing I would love to see is specific rape sequences that take place with trolls and/or giants. If the troll/giant gets the victim below the rape threashold of hitpoints they grab the victim by the hair and drag them back to their troll lair or near their giant bon fire and they then have a race specific rape sequence with special animations for the much larger NPC's doing the raping and the obvious need for different positioning. The rape sequence for this should be long, with the creatures really giving the victim a thourough multi-rape event until they are completely spent. 4) Vampire rape. If this was done right it would be hugely popular given the recent hoopla over vampires. If one is defeated by vampires the defeated player/victim should be incapacitated through a paralisis/trance=like spell, they should be stripped, and then they should be gang raped over and over with both sexual penetration as well as being bitten over and over in the neck, arm, and inner thighs. It should be a long sequence of rape, being drank from, raped again, drank, being raped while another vampire drinks, an animation where the vampre raping is also drinking from the victims neck, ect... When it comes to normal vanilla gang rape that should be left to the bandits and the like. That should be the generic rape sequences, things should get more elaborate from there and when playing Skyrim and going into different areas and dealing with different foes there should be the chance of being defeated and treated in a way that makes sense for that area and the things the player is dealing with.