[WIP] Long Life Milk Mod (Expired Milk Edition!)

[daedrasp]

Whats your opinion guys?

My opinion is milk burst!! Like "need to urinate" mode.

Most is mesh conclusion but it's so hard than apply script burst like that mode

Long time not pumped milk than milk is overflow continue and more sensitive in pain. So damage is 2 or 4 time more add.

 

Its my opinion. And thx for this hard job modders.

 

[LordLucian]

I know there is a lot of posts about this but I sit on the chair for the first time and when I sit on it a different time I get CTD every time, I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling, Old and new versions, I have downloaded BBP Skeleton, Nude and Jiggly Body mods and even tried clicking generateFNIS for users, I don't know what I'm doing wrong Please help

 

Mod list below

00  Skyrim.esm

01  Update.esm

02  Dawnguard.esm

03  HearthFires.esm

04  Dragonborn.esm

05  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

06  ApachiiHair.esm

07  SPIKE.esm

08  SkyMoMod.esm

09  WinterholdDestruction.esm

0A  ArmedttTeeth.esm

0B  caresdward.esp

0C  portal2mod.esp

0D  MilkModNEW.esp

0E  FNISspells.esp

0F  Chesko_Frostfall.esp

10  RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

11  RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

12  RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

13  RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

14  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

15  SkyUI.esp

16  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

17  ApachiiHairStyles.esp

18  ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp

19  zzEstrus.esp

1A  SexAddict.esp

1B  MLLY- Mini-Mannequins.esp

1C  MLLY - RESET HF.esp

1D  MLLY - MAIN HF.esp

1E  MLLY - FEMALE HF.esp

1F  Birdsofskyrim.esp

20  skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp

21  LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp

22  EbonySkullArmor.esp

23  NiuNiu.esp

24  mmpieceringparts1.esp

25  zarias_restraints.esp

26  zzTmBallGown.esp

27  MicroBikini Topless.esp

28  MicroBikini Bottomless.esp

29  MicroBikini.esp

2A  PrisonerRagsForFemales.esp

2B  Zarias_Piercings1.esp

2C  Playable Children PLUS.esp

2D  WetandCold.esp

2E  hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

2F  iHUD.esp

30  IA6npc01.esp

31  Helgen Reborn.esp

32  DeadlyDragons.esp

33  DeadlyMonsters.esp

34  vImmersiveBeds.esp

35  Cloaks.esp

36  Book Covers Skyrim.esp

37  RaceMenu.esp

38  RaceMenuPlugin.esp

39  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 2.3a]

3A  ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp

3B  NoSneakAttackSound.esp

3C  Morning Fogs.esp

3D  AchieveThat.esp

3E  trueskyrim.esp

3F  DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp

40  SaturationBoost.esp

41  WATER.esp

42  WATER Plants.esp

43  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

44  StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

45  StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

46  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

47  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

48  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

49  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

4A  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

4B  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

4C  Portal Companion Cube Lexicon.esp

4D  BuryTheDead.esp

4E  FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp

4F  Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp

50  DeathNote2.esp

51  Skyrim Pose Collection.esp

 

 

[arthurh3535]

So you have the bouncing breast version of the skeleton/bodymesh loaded? That seems to be the major CTD issue on new installs.

[lami]

I thought about making "Fullness" to be based on Weight, but then again, would it be better than node scaling? What do you think guys?

 

I think scaling is food as it is, I agree with your opinion on weight. My vote is for more penalties though.

 

About stats - I am not modder, my knowledge of what is possible is very limited. So bear with me

 

- Some constant capacity/size, kind of milk to weight ratio. Allows smaller/larger breasts for the same amount of milk accumulated. Variant on effectivity.

- there could be added debuffs for having "overfilled" breasts - the moment they'd like to grow but couldn't. If so, there may be "endurance"-like stat to reduce impact of these. As "overfilled" state I understand it is too much for body to handle, so these debuffs can affect health, stamina and mana total amount and/or regen, kind of general weakness. These "overfilled" debuffs may last some time after being milked (not disappear immediatelly as weight penalty does) - it takes time to recover. A stat may affect speed of this recovery.

- per-maid tick length (some produce milk faster)

- I already mentioned nipple sensitivity (maybe "pain"), which should catch you in crossfire with growth penalties,as you can't milk when nipples are too sensitive for it.

- kind of "pain tolerance" or "recovery" to adjust effects of sensitivity. It may affect amount of "pain/sensitivity" gained per unit of milk milked. Or highest amount of "pain/sensitivity" to still be able to be milked. Or speed of recovery of "pain/sensitivity". One of these, as their effect is almost same.

- "addiction" (with related "addiction tolerance") - when gone too long without being milked, some penatlies wil occur. Probably similar to these I mentioned with "overfilled" state. Addiction increases with each milking, slowly decreases with time. Level of adiction affects how soon and how severe penalties happen (since last milking). It would be possible to just wait it out, letting addiction level drop enough to be harmless. It should take rather long though. Addiction tolerance may affect speed which addiction increases (and decreases) - think Fallout perks "Chem dependent/Chem resistant". Or it may reduce penalties/debuffs. Addiction risk might increase with increased maid levels. There may be positive effects (buffs) after milking, also affected by addiction/resistance (bigger advantages, bigger penalties). There may be 2 different stats, one for addiction impact (how severe penalties are and how good buffs are), other for addiction speed (how fast positive effects change to negative).

 

I kind of like addiction idea, because it brings some more decisions - milk more often not to suffer from too big (or even overfilled, if implemented) penalties, but risk addiction with its own penalties. Or go for addiction for its buffs. Or take it slow to avoid addiction, but spend more of time with weight/overfilled penalties.

 

I hope it is not too chaotic, it is kind of brainstorming (or braindumping)

[zax]

I kind of like addiction idea, because it brings some more decisions - milk more often not to suffer from too big (or even overfilled, if implemented) penalties, but risk addiction with its own penalties. Or go for addiction for its buffs. Or take it slow to avoid addiction, but spend more of time with weight/overfilled penalties.

 

- I already mentioned nipple sensitivity (maybe "pain"), which should catch you in crossfire with growth penalties,as you can't milk when nipples are too sensitive for it.

 

Yeah, exactly my thoughts. I for one would like it to be not so obvious where "milking" is always right choice.

 

Good ideas btw.

 

---

 

To go into even more details, heres my latest "vision" of nipple accessories idea:

 

Sensitivity stat wouldnt be neither positive nor negative.

It would have good and bad sides. Sensitivity would:

 

;------------------------{INCREASE}---------------------------

;milking

;wearing armor - increases Sensitivity over time (stacking debuff)

;wearing burlap sack (crazy idea of irysius!) - increases more Sensitivity over time

;

;nipple stretchers - boost to Sensitivity gain from all sources (could be equipped under armor or sack!)

;-------------------------------------------------------------

 

;------------------------{DECREASE}---------------------------

;over time when not milking

;not wearing armor - decreases Sensitivity over time

;lotion ("crafted" from milk lol!) - decreases more Sensitivity over time

;

;nipple bandages - boost to Sensitivity lose from all sources

;-------------------------------------------------------------

 

Ok and now the question. What would sensitivity do? I mean why would someone want to boost up sensitivity?

Heres some ideas:

- milking only allowed between 30-70% of sensitivity

- higher sensitivity could impcrease milk flow (faster milking)

- could speed up milk production (kinda negative effect but still)

- keep nipple hardness high  (what it would do?)

- any more ideas?

 

What do you guys think? Keep this idea or scrap it?

 

 

[zax]

My opinion is milk burst!! Like "need to urinate" mode.

Most is mesh conclusion but it's so hard than apply script burst like that mode

TESV 2013-05-28 21-35-25-59.jpgTESV 2013-05-28 21-39-47-57.jpgTESV 2013-05-29 21-17-41-53.jpg

Long time not pumped milk than milk is overflow continue and more sensitive in pain. So damage is 2 or 4 time more add.

 

Its not hard. This is milk "burst" effect I currently have:

 

 

But the problem is not attaching it to the body, nor "scripting" it, but positioning it properly with different weights and bodies. I havent solved this issue yet.

 

[Surrealism]

 

I know there is a lot of posts about this but I sit on the chair for the first time and when I sit on it a different time I get CTD every time, I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling, Old and new versions, I have downloaded BBP Skeleton, Nude and Jiggly Body mods and even tried clicking generateFNIS for users, I don't know what I'm doing wrong Please help

 

Mod list below

00  Skyrim.esm

01  Update.esm

02  Dawnguard.esm

03  HearthFires.esm

04  Dragonborn.esm

05  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

06  ApachiiHair.esm

07  SPIKE.esm

08  SkyMoMod.esm

09  WinterholdDestruction.esm

0A  ArmedttTeeth.esm

0B  caresdward.esp

0C  portal2mod.esp

0D  MilkModNEW.esp

0E  FNISspells.esp

0F  Chesko_Frostfall.esp

10  RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

11  RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

12  RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

13  RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

14  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

15  SkyUI.esp

16  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

17  ApachiiHairStyles.esp

18  ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp

19  zzEstrus.esp

1A  SexAddict.esp

1B  MLLY- Mini-Mannequins.esp

1C  MLLY - RESET HF.esp

1D  MLLY - MAIN HF.esp

1E  MLLY - FEMALE HF.esp

1F  Birdsofskyrim.esp

20  skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp

21  LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp

22  EbonySkullArmor.esp

23  NiuNiu.esp

24  mmpieceringparts1.esp

25  zarias_restraints.esp

26  zzTmBallGown.esp

27  MicroBikini Topless.esp

28  MicroBikini Bottomless.esp

29  MicroBikini.esp

2A  PrisonerRagsForFemales.esp

2B  Zarias_Piercings1.esp

2C  Playable Children PLUS.esp

2D  WetandCold.esp

2E  hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

2F  iHUD.esp

30  IA6npc01.esp

31  Helgen Reborn.esp

32  DeadlyDragons.esp

33  DeadlyMonsters.esp

34  vImmersiveBeds.esp

35  Cloaks.esp

36  Book Covers Skyrim.esp

37  RaceMenu.esp

38  RaceMenuPlugin.esp

39  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 2.3a]

3A  ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp

3B  NoSneakAttackSound.esp

3C  Morning Fogs.esp

3D  AchieveThat.esp

3E  trueskyrim.esp

3F  DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp

40  SaturationBoost.esp

41  WATER.esp

42  WATER Plants.esp

43  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

44  StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

45  StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

46  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

47  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

48  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

49  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

4A  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

4B  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

4C  Portal Companion Cube Lexicon.esp

4D  BuryTheDead.esp

4E  FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp

4F  Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp

50  DeathNote2.esp

51  Skyrim Pose Collection.esp

 

I had this unfortunate issue as well. After hours of fiddling around with installation orders of the necessary things and various options, nothing worked. Finally I updated to the newest xp32 skeleton and then uninstalled the older version and installed the new one, reinstalled the 4-30 version of the milk mod, and reinstalled the UNP Blessed Body in various orders (though I can't remember which exactly for sure worked). You've probably already tried that, and I have no idea why it worked for me when the previous installing and reinstalling didn't, but hopefully this will help you.

[arthurh3535]

 

My opinion is milk burst!! Like "need to urinate" mode.

Most is mesh conclusion but it's so hard than apply script burst like that mode

TESV 2013-05-28 21-35-25-59.jpgTESV 2013-05-28 21-39-47-57.jpgTESV 2013-05-29 21-17-41-53.jpg

Long time not pumped milk than milk is overflow continue and more sensitive in pain. So damage is 2 or 4 time more add.

 

Its not hard. This is milk "burst" effect I currently have:

 

 

But the problem is not attaching it to the body, nor "scripting" it, but positioning it properly with different weights and bodies. I havent solved this issue yet.

 

 

You might actually want to look into the 'piercing set' body-chains jewelry that someone did for the BodySlide version of CBBE then. LINK

 

If you are using the right weighted body, the jewelry stays attached to nipples and vagina quite well while draping on the hips and around the neck (though that could be slightly tighter. 

 

Let me grab some pics from my custom CBBE (body-slides to go from quite petite to pretty stacked).

 

{EDIT} Oh, and from the way things 'react' when you engorge or are deflated, are you doing (BaseSize)*(LevelModifierSize)*(PercentageIncreaseSize)=(ActualSizeofBreasts)?

 

Because I think it would distort less if you did ((BaseSize)*(LevelModifierSize))+((BaseSize)*(PercentageIncreaseSize))=(ActualSizeofBreasts)

[pandasaka]

maybe when capacity is too full plus with to sore to be milk, milk maids will be paralyzed and begin to spurt milk until capacity is dropped to like. 50.20..or dried, just like those hentai animes(losing the chance to sell them normally..)

 

nipple bondage thing..increase your capacity some more level, with extra sensitive as cost?  or can't be milked at all when bandage is on? 

[xareyvax]

Just an idea :

can we imagine an animation about milk feeding ? (by a folloer for example)

it would be usefull to remove part of debuff when breast become engorged during a dungeon exploration... especially just before a difficult boss ^^

Its just an idea. but i think it would be difficult to do.

 

@LordLucian

for the CTD problem, i had this every time when i sit on the chair, but it happens when i tried the CHSBHCS V3 body. For the chsbhc older version, it works fine. For the manga body its works fine too.

But...

I have another CTD, in random ways, when i tried to use manga conversion clothes and armors (http://www.loverslab.com/topic/10270-conversions-for-manga-body/) in replacement for vanilla armors. It seems it not happens so often when i use other converted outfit than vanilla replaced (for example Ivy armor or arcana clothes)

So i use Chsbhc conversion armors, but manga body so i have not the same breast when my character is node or not...

In my opinion, the lady bat clothes is one of the best and one of the most beautifull. (we can have these here http://www.loverslab.com/topic/6295-chsbhc-armors-and-clothes-conversions/)

 

Sorry for my bad english.

[xareyvax]

oh, and for lady bat its here (other link..)

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/6416-megalovs-thread/

[fenrir19]

 

Whats your opinion guys?

My opinion is milk burst!! Like "need to urinate" mode.

Most is mesh conclusion but it's so hard than apply script burst like that mode

TESV 2013-05-28 21-35-25-59.jpgTESV 2013-05-28 21-39-47-57.jpgTESV 2013-05-29 21-17-41-53.jpg

Long time not pumped milk than milk is overflow continue and more sensitive in pain. So damage is 2 or 4 time more add.

 

Its my opinion. And thx for this hard job modders.

 

 

hahaha  same here milk burst would be great !

[zax]

Because I think it would distort less if you did ((BaseSize)*(LevelModifierSize))+((BaseSize)*(PercentageIncreaseSize))=(ActualSizeofBreasts)

 

Currently it is:

fMinSize + (iCycleCnt * ( (fMaxSize - fMinSize)/25 ) )

where:

25 = constant max number of cycles

iCycleCnt = current cycle number

fMinSize and Max defined by user

 

There wouldnt be levels anymore.

 

maybe when capacity is too full plus with to sore to be milk, milk maids will be paralyzed and begin to spurt milk until capacity is dropped to like. 50.20..or dried, just like those hentai animes(losing the chance to sell them normally..)

 

Something like that I like it, but not sure if losing milk wouldnt be too easy that way. Maybe there should be leakage for cycles above max, but not going under that?

[Tefnacht]

Just make sure you don't cripple the player beyond repair. Some of the longer dungeon crawls without any chance to get milked would be rather annoying to do if you cannot wear any armor, only move at reduced speed, cannot carry anything and get paralyzed all the time.

 

Maybe have some options to opt out of the more severe penalties. Or add a potion that stops milk production for a while. Or add some kind of portable milker that only gives relieve but doesn't actually bottle up the milk.

[arthurh3535]

 

Currently it is:

fMinSize + (iCycleCnt * ( (fMaxSize - fMinSize)/25 ) )

where:

25 = constant max number of cycles

iCycleCnt = current cycle number

fMinSize and Max defined by user

 

There wouldnt be levels anymore.

Thanks for the reply. So '25 steps' of growth, based on whatever the minimum you have? But that's based on the option in the menu (.4 to 1.0) and your Milk Level (1-10), right?

 

So does that mean you can 'start' at level 20 and then add another 25 steps?

 

I hope the pictures I made and the link to the piercing mod gave you some ideas, at least.

[Hossenfepher]

 

Whats your opinion guys?

My opinion is milk burst!! Like "need to urinate" mode.

Most is mesh conclusion but it's so hard than apply script burst like that mode

TESV 2013-05-28 21-35-25-59.jpgTESV 2013-05-28 21-39-47-57.jpgTESV 2013-05-29 21-17-41-53.jpg

Long time not pumped milk than milk is overflow continue and more sensitive in pain. So damage is 2 or 4 time more add.

 

Its my opinion. And thx for this hard job modders.

 

 

 

 

daedrasp, where'd you those shoes?

[zax]

 

 

Currently it is:

fMinSize + (iCycleCnt * ( (fMaxSize - fMinSize)/25 ) )

where:

25 = constant max number of cycles

iCycleCnt = current cycle number

fMinSize and Max defined by user

 

There wouldnt be levels anymore.

Thanks for the reply. So '25 steps' of growth, based on whatever the minimum you have? But that's based on the option in the menu (.4 to 1.0) and your Milk Level (1-10), right?

 

So does that mean you can 'start' at level 20 and then add another 25 steps?

 

Firstly, its not set in stone. Just pasted you formula that I have in script currently.

 

So yeah according to that, 25 steps of growth starting at minimum set by player. eventually minimum (and maximum) could be randomly set by script. But currently it was that you set min + max its divided by number of cycles (25), then that value is multiplied by "cyrrent cycle number" and added to minimum. There wouldnt be milk levels.

[xareyvax]

just a question :

is it normal if i have in game only 3 maid slots instead of 5 at the max level (lvl 5) ?

[WhateverYouLike]

Can I get some help here? The game will let me sit down on the chair, and it tells me my character has become a milk made, with the "Want to use the story" pop up, but when I stand up, everything is unequipped from me and a flash later I CTD.

Using Aegis' Milk Mod version from Post # 589, patched with the 'hotfix' from Post #622.

Any help would be fantastic.

 

[arthurh3535]

just a question :

is it normal if i have in game only 3 maid slots instead of 5 at the max level (lvl 5) ?

You would have to manually set the MilkLvlCap to 10 to unlock 'all of it'. But the growth for Level 10 is... pretty outrageous.

[Kwengie]

you had in an earlier version the information, how much milk has been pumped out, when my charlady ist on the "Milking-Machine".

Could you bring the info again, because the Shlurf-Sound is too quiet from my char?

[xareyvax]

arthurh3535:

thanks for the answer. but... how can i change it mannualy ? in the file or in the menu in game ?

[Buggy]

 

So much statistics... all about one of the most wonderful things in the universe... *_*

 

This mod looks amazing... I love it already, and the ideas you have for it. No milk levels, just good solid milk is so simple but probably one of the best things. I'm in love with the idea of each pair of tits in the world being unique & different in lots of ways... maybe one day we can breed for desirable tit traits and fill the world with better and better cowgirls!! More stats please!

 

Umm... About other suggestions... I like followers drinking to relieve some pressure... Maybe you can have some fun with this. Others can drink directly, maybe even relieving pressure when sensitivity is too high to milk normally, but it starts awakening the instincts of a mother! Or really addiction the more she nurses, an addiction that also makes milk production start going up & up faster and faster.

 

So if you just wanted to adventure for a while without being milked & bring someone to nurse, it's good in the short run but harder in the long run because of needing to nurse more because of motherly instincts getting strong and also needing to nurse more because of milk production going up & up very fast.

 

And if it was your milk maids well of course they could just be milked, but what if you could be smart about nursing from them? In the short run it would be bad because they are filling your belly and not your purse, and in the long run too if you're not careful of course, but do it just enough and they will give you more milk to sell than before!

 

Or... Maybe let one milk maid give in and nurse as much as she wants. Milk is nature's perfect drink isn't it, probably even better straight from the source than bottled.

[zax]

About milking straight from source I for one would like something like that, but its not so easy as one may think. Making different size of tits to connect with mouth would require different animation or at least different offset for second actors animation. It would require at least SexLab dependency + new animation + offset computing function + modification of SexLab that im not sure Ashal would like to do.

 

I thought that MilkMaids could work similarly to vampires but inversely. Instead of feeding you have to feed or get milked or you will be losing stats (getting penalties?), vampiric drain could be replaced by "feed" spell calling forced breast feeding animation on targets, only when MilkMaid is above certain value of fullness.

 

Eventually MilkMaid "disease" could be spread via direct milking - as long as target is female (+follower)?

 

What would breast feeding spell do? Heal target? or if its another Maid it could speed up her production as penalty.

 

Well I'm having problem at design level. And sorting out stats. If someone is willing to help, feel free.

[lami]

To go into even more details, heres my latest "vision" of nipple accessories idea:

 

;------------------------{INCREASE}---------------------------

;milking

;wearing armor - increases Sensitivity over time (stacking debuff)

;wearing burlap sack (crazy idea of irysius!) - increases more Sensitivity over time

;nipple stretchers - boost to Sensitivity gain from all sources (could be equipped under armor or sack!)

 

;------------------------{DECREASE}---------------------------

;over time when not milking

;not wearing armor - decreases Sensitivity over time

;lotion ("crafted" from milk lol!) - decreases more Sensitivity over time

;nipple bandages - boost to Sensitivity lose from all sources

 

Ok and now the question. What would sensitivity do? I mean why would someone want to boost up sensitivity?

Heres some ideas:

- milking only allowed between 30-70% of sensitivity

- higher sensitivity could impcrease milk flow (faster milking)

- could speed up milk production (kinda negative effect but still)

- keep nipple hardness high  (what it would do?)

- any more ideas?

 

What do you guys think? Keep this idea or scrap it?

 

 

Ah, now I understand what you meant by "too much to manage". I vote for simpler methods for managing levels etc. As I would like to play the game itself at the same movent, I would get rid of most accessories. From these you mentioned I would keep it to be affected by milking (obviously) and possibly with wearing armor / clothes / go naked. My idea was more in lines "this is how it works, learn to live with it".

 

My view is:

 

Sensitivity is mostly negative effect, as I was unable to come up with any positive buff for increased sensitivity. Well, except of persuation / mercantile boost against males only, which is so marginal I would leave it out completely.

 

Sensitivity is tied to fullnes level (percentage of current max capacity). My idea is that at 70% of fullness with plain clothing, sensitivity does not change in time (and 50% for light armor and 30% for heavy). Higher fulness = increase of sensitivity, lower decrease. This is more adjusted by current sensitivity, so for example to lower sensitivity under 70% you have to go naked even freshly milked.

 

Of course there may be variations depending on maid, fixed "physical" characteristics, randomly generated at start, or maybe changing during level up.

 

I would add some "safety measures" for the case you are deep into a dungeon and can't go back. Like item / spell / power to partially milk a maid (or self), with some negative impact (like higher sensitivity gain). And perhaps something for lowering sensitivity/speeding up natural recovery. These measures should be limited, to be used just for emergency (recharge milking device, rarity of one use items, reduced spell frequency).

 

I'll try to summarize it into one idea and bring some solid numbers and equations.