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Does anyone know what mod causes skill trainers to lose their function?


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So something in my mods is causing certain skill trainers to lose their functions. They'll offer training, but the following voice clip will have no sound, and not bring up the training menu. Not all of them are affected, but quite a few are, such as Ogmund in Markarth or Arcadia in Whiterun. Is something messing with their voice files or something?

 

Load order:

 

 

 

00 Skyrim.esm

01 Update.esm

02 SkyMoMod.esm

03 BlackreachRailroad.ESM

04 Deus Mons.esm

05 moonpath.esm

06 RiverHelm.esm

07 SleepingTreeSanctuary.esm [Version 1.2]

08 ApachiiHair.esm

09 ApachiiHairFemales.esm

0A XFLMain.esm

0B Daeas.esm

0C RaceCompatibility.esm

0D Sanctum of the Fallen.esm

0E LunariRace.esm

0F MTAutoStorage.esm

10 ElinRace.esm [Version 20120809]

11 ElinRaceTaint.esm

12 ElinRace - ApachiiHair.esm

13 Hideout.esm

14 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 1.1]

15 DW Commoners.esp

16 DW Enemies and Wanderers.esp

17 Cute Girl s Replacer Markarth v01.esp

18 Cute Girl s Replacer Riften v 0.2.esp

19 Cute Girl s Replacer Solitude v01.esp

1A Cute Girl s Replacer Witherun v 3.0.esp

1B FixCombatMusic.esp

1C PersonalizedMusic_v4.0.esp

1D PM_DwemerMusic_NoVanilla_v1.0.esp

1E PM_CollegeMusic_v1.0.esp

1F PM_BlackreachMusic_v1.0.esp

20 PM_BlackreachMusic_NoVanilla_v1.0.esp

21 PM_DwemerMusic_v1.0.esp

22 PM_TempleMusic_v1.0.esp

23 PM_TempleMusic_NoVanilla_v1.0.esp

24 StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

25 Birdsofskyrim.esp

26 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

27 Crafting300.esp

28 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

29 TK_Clutter_Plants.esp

2A Auto Unequip Arrows.esp

2B BBP_ArmorPack.esp

2C Cloaks - No Imperial.esp

2D Cloaks.esp

2E Cloaks - Player Only.esp

2F CraftablePantysCBBEv3M.esp

30 Dr_Bandolier.esp

31 fox14 Armor.esp

32 fox19 Armor.esp

33 fox15 Armor.esp

34 fox18 Armor.esp

35 Hentai_mixed_Armor.esp

36 HentaisJamellaArmor.esp

37 OchinClothingMod02_WitchHat_Edit00.esp

38 Onechanbara Kagura Set.esp

39 Osare Maid Outfit.esp

3A Plush Backpack.esp

3B R18Pn - Astaroth Suit.esp

3C R18Pn - Diano Armor.esp

3D Remodeled Armor.esp

3E SexyKunoichi2ndByNausicaa.esp

3F Skeleton bikini.esp

40 Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp

41 TERA Armors for Skyrim - UNPB-BBP.esp

42 tera swords.esp

43 DeadlyDragons.esp

44 DeadlyDragonsSpells.esp

45 DragonsDiversified.esp

46 DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp

47 Monster Wars.esp

48 BecomeKingOfRiverHelm.esp

49 BlackreachRailroad.esp

4A Breezehome remodel.esp

4B buildablehouse.esp

4C Deus Mons_WithNPCs.esp

4D aGreyLedgeManorLITE.esp

4E moonpath_questdata.esp

4F The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2]

50 dD-No Screen Blood.esp

51 UnreadBooksGlow.esp [Version 1.5]

52 YKBeefsteakierDawnbreaker.esp

53 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

54 ColettesRevenge.esp

55 EmpoweredMagic.esp

56 Enchanting Freedom.esp

57 Duel - Combat Realism.esp

58 ACE Realistic Fighting.esp

59 ACE BYOG.esp

5A ACE Speech.esp

5B ACE Armor.esp

5C ACE Enchanting.esp

5D ACE Magic.esp

5E ACE Melee.esp

5F ACE Smithing.esp

60 ACE Synergy.esp

61 numenume Hair.esp

62 RenHair.esp

63 XFLDialogue.esp

64 XFLPlugins.esp

65 XFLTweaks.esp

66 Amanda.esp

67 Lyla.esp

68 Michelle.esp

69 Misha.esp

6A Companion_Ari.esp

6B Companion_Ria.esp

6C DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp

6D alteredbeginning.esp

6E EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

6F Clean Invisibility Effects plus Eyes Fix.esp

70 WATER.esp

71 WATER - Get Wet.esp

72 Better Dynamic Snow.esp

73 GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp

74 dD-SkyrimMonsterMod EBT Patch.esp

75 SkyMoMod Extras Collectables.esp

76 ASIS-Dependency.esp

77 Sims_hair.esp

78 Monli.esp

79 ElinRace - Use Monli custom BBP Body.esp

7A MikuHairElin.esp

7B SummonElinRing.esp

7C ElinmageFollowersVanilla.esp

7D ElinRaceIdle.esp

7E ElinRaceVoice - ElinVoice.esp

7F FollowerSaber.esp

80 Sylmeria.esp

81 DTHKhajArgTailRemoverClothes.esp

82 numenume bikini.esp

83 MyTypeAeliaV3L2.esp

84 MyTypeCynthiaV3L1.esp

85 MyTypeIonaV3L1.esp

86 MyTypeJordisV3SL1.esp

87 MyTypeLydiaV3L2.esp

88 lilithssickle_2_0.esp

89 Lady of Death.esp

8A Daeas.esp

8B Followers.esp

8C BetterCitiesWhiterun.esp

8D BetterCitiesWindhelm.esp

8E modteacher3.esp

8F ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp

90 MODLusia.esp

91 AK- A Friend of Time.esp

92 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_nounderwear.esp

93 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_noskirtnounderwear.esp

94 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_noskirt.esp

95 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_normal.esp

96 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_nobra.esp

97 Al3dHotDress1_1.esp

98 JNPC_AelaTheHuntress.esp

99 Realistic Lighting.esp

9A Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp

9B Path of Shadows - Sneak Perks.esp

9C Path of Shadows - Alchemy.esp

9D Path of Shadows - Sneak Settings.esp

9E Bashed Patch, 0.esp

9F Automatic Variants.esp

A0 ASIS.esp

++ DeadlyDiversifiedDragonsPatch.esp

++ Jump100.esp

++ SkyJubs_Invisible_Helmets_English_Main_1_2.esp

++ SkyMoMod_lists.esp

 

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I can't help you there, but i can give a tip, how can you do it yourself. I was using this trick in the FO3/Oblivion/NV.

 

When doing this it might CTD, so don't save during this!

- disable half of all your mods, and load the game like this

- if the problem still exists, then you know that the other half that you didn't select isn't the problem OR if the problem doesn't exists then the problem lies in the other half

- next, from the half that is causing trouble make another half, and just use this, again try to load and see the results...

and again check which half works and doesn't, and again just half that it doesn't works, and so on,

again again again, till you find the problematic one,

 

I know that it might be time consuming but still you will find the problematic ESP, sometimes you will find more than one causing trouble, so you must first find one, then again go do it all over again but not selecting the first problematic you found

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One thing that also might not hurt is going through your load order with a fine toothed comb and making sure you have no duplicates:

92 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_nounderwear.esp

93 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_noskirtnounderwear.esp

94 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_noskirt.esp

95 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_normal.esp

96 zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_nobra.esp

 

I am pretty sure that you were supposed to pick only one of the above and not all of them. I could be wrong but it is worth you reading the readme for that mod and any other that you may have installed where there are multiple esp files.

 

More examples of possible duplicates:

2C Cloaks - No Imperial.esp

2D Cloaks.esp

 

and

 

22 PM_TempleMusic_v1.0.esp

23 PM_TempleMusic_NoVanilla_v1.0.esp

 

Cheers,

Greg

 

EDIT: Also take a hard look at any skill, perk or dialogue mods that you have as one of them could be the culprit. Again, read the readme's and mod descriptions so you know exactly what each mods esp does and this can save you from all sorts of conflicts popping up.

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The culprit turned out to be the Dovahkiin Hideout home mod. Somehow.

 

Seeing as how the mod seems to be abandoned, I suppose it's time to put this one to rest.

 

 

 

And oh wow, I had no idea NMM had installed every esp. Since I couldn't read the full names in the list I thought those mods were just broken up like that. Thanks for the heads up!

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