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The wishfull thinking is actually the oposite of these "stereotypes".

In the Orwellian matrix? For sure.

 

Somewhat, we are no longer chained to the stereotypes, though our bodies always have some influence on what we doing.

 

I see lots of people bashing on stereotypes, while falling right into them, you leave one role just to fall into another.

 

Also this is what you have said in paid mods thread not long ago:

"Why are you young men so eager to give way to Bethesda w/o a good fight, huh? I really miss the old days mommy told me of when men still had some spine, balls larger than marbles and didn't always scream 'Run! Run away! Really... this is embarrassing."

The silly stereotypes ^, which even you seem to be looking for.

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I think lots of people are just sick and tired of the emotional drama of relationships.  Probably misreading these guys.  Women that chase men wanting to nail them down are going to get a lot of resistance, if not because men just don't want to be in a serious relationship then because aggressive women tend to set off all kinds of alarms.  Once I ignored those alarms and wound up being  the victim of a miserable, angry woman who subjected me to verbal and psychological abuse on a daily basis.

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I think lots of people are just sick and tired of the emotional drama of relationships.  Probably misreading these guys.  Women that chase men wanting to nail them down are going to get a lot of resistance, if not because men just don't want to be in a serious relationship then because aggressive women tend to set off all kinds of alarms.  Once I ignored those alarms and wound up being  the victim of a miserable, angry woman who subjected me to verbal and psychological abuse on a daily basis.

Sorry to hear that, i dodged that bullet so many times while all of my friends ended with such childish women, including my brother who even has to pay for a child that isnt his.

 

 

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Merriam-Webster adds new words to it every year... and while the origin of the term may have come from false information, the term "Alpha Male" is still used today. The term "Alpha Male" just doesn't have an official definition, hence the debate over what it means.

 

 

 

I'd say extroverted would be the better word to describe what most people mean when they say alpha. Throw attractive to the mix and you have what is considered the typical Chad, the memefied archetype of the alpha male, which already is a meme in itself. Words nowadays seem to devolve to a very low common denominator though. If someone claims to be alpha, they're just trying to convince you they're better than you. If someone says they're not an alpha, they're jealous and frustrated because they're not as succesful as other people and trying to find a scapegoat for their shortcomings. It's like troll changed from 'person who disrupts online interactions to provoke an emotional reaction in the process' to 'person who I disagree with'.

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I'd say extroverted would be the better word to describe what most people mean when they say alpha. 

Not necessarily... I've met my fair share of outward "sociable" people with little to no romantic success, as well as people who openly hate dealing with people whom get laid all the time. Not to say poon makes you a "man" but would you consider the most talkative person in a group or workplace an "alpha" just because he's talkative?  

 

 

Truth be told though, the whole idea behind "alphas" and "betas" is ridiculous, as it is little more then an internet meme to demoralize introverted, shy people by saying they're not a "real man" fucking cuck shit is all I see when I hear that kind of shit.

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Its just insane over there.

 

Yeah, well... I live in the U.S. where the poor, uneducated, and STD-riddled are breeding 20-1, so "insane" is subjective.

 

 

I wonder how a Japanese audience would comprehend this, would they have an aneurysm thinking of the chaos it implies or dream of it as some dating utopia?

 

Japan's relationship problems based off the article and others like it come off as issues with simple solutions to an American like me.

 

As an American I can't wrap my head around why the poor, uneducated, STD-riddled breeding 20-1 is a thing here.

I wonder if there's specific conditions that cause this in the U.S. that could cause it in other countries as well.

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Alpha, beta...they exist as general concepts in modern online society and most people have an idea what's meant or intended when the terms are used. Of course we all have violently different reactions to hearing them.

 

At least they've sort of retained their original definitions unlike words such as...cuck.

 

And alpha isn't just used solely to demean lower status males*, it's also used as a derogatory term by said low status males against their hated chad oppressors. Just like the much beloved term "normie."  Similarly a lot of intrinsically ironic communities like 4chan long ago took and adopted 'beta' like they take pretty much everything. All in all it's been a very long time since I could muster up emotion over either word, it actually struck me as bizarre that some were unfamiliar with their usage here.

 

* Full disclosure: am lowest status male

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And alpha isn't just used solely to demean lower status males*, it's also used as a derogatory term by said low status males against their hated chad oppressors. 

Kinda like when a lower employee will emphasize 'boss' to the point where it's sarcastic? Fuck those people, and fuck that passive-aggressive attitude.

 

... Not that you're giving that attitude, just fuck the people who DO have that attitude.

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And alpha isn't just used solely to demean lower status males*, it's also used as a derogatory term by said low status males against their hated chad oppressors. 

Kinda like when a lower employee will emphasize 'boss' to the point where it's sarcastic? Fuck those people, and fuck that passive-aggressive attitude.

 

... Not that you're giving that attitude, just fuck the people who DO have that attitude.

 

 

You have a lot of anger!

 

But no. It's like when people who enjoy elevated social privileges call you "the other" and create a wall between you both and mercilessly ridicule you, eventually you take pride in being "other" from those pieces of shit and you would never want to be on their side of the wall anyhow because they and the people who share their values are on that side. And the people who are like you, similarly rejected, are on your side. 

 

You accept your identity and you accept the status-quo and thrive beneath the musty rock that society has allotted you and your ilk. The word that describes your oppressor no longer has positive connotations to you, who belongs to the dark side and so it becomes a fitting descriptor. A word laden with implicit insult. The context has flipped. He's an alpha chad meathead, I'm a creepy crawly beta. All is right in the world. It's not even sour grapes anymore. From this side of society's wall you see how silly it all is, its true form. Society's arbitrary authoritarian influence can no longer shame you. It's been robbed of its absolute context.

 

Or lets try this. In terms of this site: they're normies and we're perverts.

It's okay to be a pervert I think, when the alternative is being so horribly normal and all that actually entails.

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You have a lot of anger!

 

But no. It's like when people who enjoy elevated social privileges call you "the other" and create a wall between you both and mercilessly ridicule you, eventually you take pride in being "other" from those pieces of shit and you would never want to be on their side of the wall anyhow because they and the people who share their values are on that side. And the people who are like you, similarly rejected, are on your side. 

 

You accept your identity and you accept the status-quo and thrive beneath the musty rock that society has allotted you and your ilk. The word that describes your oppressor no longer has positive connotations to you, who belongs to the dark side and so it becomes a fitting descriptor. A word laden with implicit insult. The context has flipped. He's an alpha chad meathead, I'm a creepy crawly beta. All is right in the world. It's not even sour grapes anymore. From this side of society's wall you see how silly it all is, its true form. Society's arbitrary authoritarian influence can no longer shame you. It's been robbed of its absolute context.

 

Or lets try this. In terms of this site: they're normies and we're perverts.

It's okay to be a pervert I think, when the alternative is being so horribly normal and all that actually entails.

 

Anger? A bit, sure... but when I said that, there was no real anger involved; kinda like when somebody talks about someone you don't like. "Eh, fuck him" and you move on.

 

The rest of that... I can kind of get it, but damn that's depressing.

 

Regardless... If the other side accepts themselves as "creepy crawly beta" I can't imagine "alphas" would take offense to being insulted by such individuals, and would probably think it's pathetic.  

 

Not a personal attack

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I think it's more depressing to not understand your place and to still think you're a normie when you're actually a pervert and all the normies think you're a pervert too because you're at a perverted site called Loverslab

 

To me the idea of "normal" has long since unraveled into a vague ideal that many endlessly neurotically strive for, and in their shame at failing to sufficiently achieve such normalcy they lash out against the other. The perverts who dare visit a site about video game sex and jerk it to pixels.

 

Anyway back to the alpha/beta dichotomy...a lot of men have accepted who they are, accepted that they're 'beta' by nature and that alphas are always going to get all the chicks. Fine, whatever. Chicks aren't everything, life goes on, it's 2017 and life has never been more amazing for betas! Let Chad have his fill of shrieking liberated harpies until one of them grasps him firmly with his talons and drags him to a painful death sentence of matriarchal matrimony or eternal alimony. That's what alpha means now, briefly enjoying the fruits of youth and then suffering the burdens of normalcy for the rest of your life. Fuck that says the herbivores, we're just going to whack off to 2D.

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Eh people just care too much about what others think of them, just try to live your life the best way you can and things will unfold naturally.

 

In fact there is alot that men could learn from women, taking care of yourself and especially loving yourself...most of them try to make women happy (which is impossible) instead of making themselfs happy (which is quite easy), or drowning themself in resentment.

 

Learn, adapt and have a good time, you dont need women for that.

 

 

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This wiki-link may not be the complete definition of the words, but I think they are pretty good explanations. It describes the traits through ethology. 


Humans share these traits, to some extent. But we don't need to compete in the same way when it comes food, opposite sex etc etc, as other animals. 


 


Alpahs, Betas and Omegas


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Haha I wish the "omega" distinction was brought up more often because it really is what most people mean when they refer to beta. Sadly we don't get to choose, society loves clumsy dichotomies. Black vs white, red vs blue, alpha vs beta, us vs them.

 

Yeah, I agree. Same with the word "cuck". Which is also used in a false way. Now these days is used as an insult, often when people has been walked over or are considered in general a weak pathetic loser. But, as far as I know, it's actually a legit sexual thing where you like seeing your partner getting fucked by another person. No matter if you're a woman or a man. You get off by it, you enjoy watching it.

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Japan has a very different culture. One that breaks people and leaves only husks behind so yeah, I wouldn't compare Japan to western cultures.

 

 

In China, women to men ratio is 100:115, but problem with these "left-over women" is much bigger than men, because men don't need marry someone with equal or better society state, they still feel the pressure from the family, but they know it's a bigger risk rushing into marriage, trust me, in western, men usually only know they are fucked when they sign the divorce paper,  in east asia, men are fucked as soon as they send out marriage document.

 

no matter what feminist says, men still have the real power on this matter, most of them can afford to wait or never get married, but women can't, it's just a passive aggressive move from male side, and female has very few way to counter that. I don't think it's the right way to deal with the problem, but maybe there is any right way.

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Not necessarily... I've met my fair share of outward "sociable" people with little to no romantic success, as well as people who openly hate dealing with people whom get laid all the time. Not to say poon makes you a "man" but would you consider the most talkative person in a group or workplace an "alpha" just because he's talkative?  

 

 

Truth be told though, the whole idea behind "alphas" and "betas" is ridiculous, as it is little more then an internet meme to demoralize introverted, shy people by saying they're not a "real man" fucking cuck shit is all I see when I hear that kind of shit.

 

 

Being extroverted doesn't mean that you're talkative and introverted doesn't mean you are shy. It mostly just describes your mode of being, extroverts like being around people and exposing themselves to a lot of other people, introverts don't. They would rather spend time alone or with the company of a few select individuals, though that doesn't mean that they can't do what extroverts do, they'll simply don't enjoy it. Shyness in itself is mostly a result of bad/lacking socialisation at a young age or because of bad experiences that you've suffered through and don't want to repeat. It's not that it is always pathologic but I'd say more often than not, especially if you are shy to the point where it cripples you. For example, you can be a shy extrovert in which case you'll suffer a great deal because your personality demands that you interact with lots of other people but your shyness will keep you from doing what you actually want.

 

When it comes to success with women however the most important aspect would be how attractive you are, at least for short-term relationships that center on the sexual part. People in general are much more inclined to tolerate you if you have the looks.

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