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From an article in Sankaku Complex...

 

interesting since this is already going around the world where MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) is on the rise and not just in th land of the rising sun...

 

Japanese women are again complaining of being surrounded by passive beta herbivores who for some inexplicable reason refuse to wife them up, with a recent survey revealing 60% of Japanese men having never dated with an eye towards marriage – and the survey authors naturally conclude men are to blame, as “the conventional wisdom is that the approach must come from the man, but now many men have passive attitudes to romance.”

 

A survey of 3296 single men and women aged 25-34 undertaken (Link in Japanese) by the Meiji Yasuda Institute of Life and Wellness regarding their views of marriage and dating revealed shocking levels of male tepidity towards female aspirations of wifery.

51.1% of respondents confessed to having no experience of “serious” dating predicated on marriage, with the 39.4% of women ‘carousel riders somewhat outnumbered by the 62.7% of men wise to the schemes of the 60.6%.

 

The most common reasons women dumped men who were interested in marrying them up indicate the female prerogative is alive and well in Japan even if it threatens spinsterhood – 23.9% found “we just weren’t compatible” and another 23.9% “had doubts about this guy being marriage material”, and fully 48.2% of women claimed to have been the ones to dump their marriage-minded suitor compared to only 33% of men.

 

Female hypergamy too was more than evident – 7.8% of women dumped their partner because they “thought someone better would come along,” as compared to a mere 1.9% of men.

Most women also claimed they would never date a man who wouldn’t submit to marriage eventually – 58.7% of women who “had marriage in mind” whilst dating said they would dump the guy the instant he refused to ring them up, and an unsurprising 68.5% of women who would “only date guys seriously thinking of marriage” would also ditch the man who refused to hitch.

As usual, money was also a major factor too; over a third of women outright refused to consider marrying a man who made less than 8 million yen a year – for reference, this is approximately 7% of Japanese taxpayers, irrespective of age, sex or marital status.

These women – all of whom, it must be remembered, were themselves expired if not outright rotten “Chistmas cake” aged 25 to 34 – of course earned meagre salaries themselves, with 56.5% of women who wanted to net a husband earning over 4 million yen earning between 2 and 3 million yen a year themselves.

 

Understandably against this backdrop, 80% of men “hoped” their bride would continue working after marriage, whilst 90% of women “wouldn’t mind even if they had to keep working” (the questions for some reason being worded differently…).

The institute commented that “the conventional wisdom is that the approach must come from the man, but now many men have passive attitudes to romance – the result is that many do not reach the stage of serious dating as a prelude to marriage,” conveniently choosing to ignore how many women preferred to remain single rather than settle.

The blue-pilled canard that men are to blame for the plight of all these poor unmarried maidens is apparently not something the masses of 2ch are prepared to swallow, with many now clearly more interested in going their own way (or at least not being suckered into a modern marriage):

 

“We don’t approach women because we don’t want to be arrested.”

“If a guy confesses his love to a woman nowadays it is treated as harassment, no wonder so few men do.”

“And none of these women would approach a guy themselves I’m sure.”

“Stick to delivery health guys. Legalise it now FFS.”

“Take care of your lusts at a brothel or on the Internet, and use domestic appliances to take care of the housework. There’s no need for a real wife which costs so much to maintain.”

“Considering the legal risks faced by men in marrying nobody could recommend it, that’s really all that matters in this.”

“A nice guy has no chance of success, and his approaches will be treated as harassment. In sum, all approaches from guys other than Chad are harassment.”

“Women need to wise up and stop their fascination with clothing and hair styles no men are interested in if they want to catch the eye of guys.”

“Totally. I hate those fucking fringes all the AKB girls have. And all the latest fashions completely conceal all female contours, they look like something a pregnant woman would wear.”

“Unlimited porn is to blame. Limit male access to porn and when they get horny enough they will approach!”

“I can only think of married guys as masochistic perverts. Maybe they can’t help it if they are workers though.”

“Why must the guy approach? This is discrimination!”

“Nobody would approach all those uggos and old hags anyway.”

“Many Japanese women support male conscription. Why? So once Japanese men fall on the battlefield they can marry a white!”

“1. Men must confess their love to women.
2. Women choose the man.
3. If she doesn’t like him, it’s harassment.
4. If guys don’t approach women and there are more unmarried women, it is all the fault of men.
Fucking females are trash, aren’t they?”

“They preach equality of the sexes whilst these pitiful women demand to be approached and remain completely passive. No woman would propose to a guy and buy him a ring, now would they? They won’t even go dutch on a date…”

“If you approach and are shot down, she’ll tell all her friends and you’ll be socially hamstrung. It’s too risky.”

“Most men are just waiting for the robots and AIs now, and you can bet they’ll be more than satisfied with them.”

“Once they are in their thirties it is too late for them anyway.”

“In Japan they’ll start getting asked ‘why aren’t you married?’ from 25 on.”

“Now that I think of it, isn’t saying that it is common wisdom that men must approach but that there are huge numbers of passive men who won’t approach something of a paradox?”

“They mean ‘common wisom (amongst our female overlords)’…”

“Women: If you’re not a rich Chad don’t come near me, I’ll turn you into a criminal.

Men: Understood.

Win-win.”

“In the real society, dating and marriage is reduced to all women scrambling to get at a few Chads. Men no women will touch and the women broken and discarded by Chads are all that remains, the real issue is what to do with this lot. But men no women will touch can still rent a woman, whilst Chad’s cast-offs can only vent on 2ch. What an age we live in.”

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Guest Katherlne

So funny. In first place they cry when men's groping them in bus and subway. Now they have a women's only bus and trains. A and now... they want a attention from men's? Especially when they have a lot bitches who make a fake groping, blackmailing and extorted money from their victims.

 

We don’t approach women because we don’t want to be arrested.”

 

 

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“Unlimited porn is to blame. Limit male access to porn and when they get horny enough they will approach!”

 

Limited access only for men's? Wow, that sexism in 2017... If you want a dick so badly, maybe YOU must try to approach to a men?

 

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And what a problem with beta males? Japan women's already forget how they treated in traditional japan families?

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I probably shouldn't have laughed but damn if that isn't pathetic from both sides. Gold-digging, entitled women and bitter, insecure men afraid of being emasculated... that's all I'm reading. 

 

I dont buy into this whole red-pill and beta/alpha bullshit it.

Its all noise but what you said pretty much hits it on nose.

 

There is also the fact that having a social life in Japan seems to be frowned upon.

Its all WORK WORK WORK. STUDY STUDY STUDY. All the frigging time.

 

I remember this story from an engineer friend of mine where their Japanese clients want the staffers to be available in ungodly hours for routine meetings.

The engineers were trying to tell the Japanese that by 6 or 7pm they should not expect anyone at the office at least on an on call basis. The japanese expected their employees until 10pm or 11pm and the next workday to be at 8am as usual.

 

Its just insane over there.

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 If their society is flawed to the point where they don't procreate, they will die out.

 

 The only thing that might fix their shit is a massive reeducation program coupled with

incentives to encourage procreation. Considering the reported behavior of Japanese

men in earlier eras, maybe the world is a better place if they're 'herbivores' now; although

you would never guess that from looking at some of their porn.

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For me modern female and feminist release men from the role of being the protector the provider. Men can do anything they want and a lot of them go MGTOW, they dont have to work as much as before and still have their saving. It is winning for men except those refer to have relationship.

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Well, as I see it marriage is a deathtrap nowadays and should be totally avoided if someone has self-preservation instincts. If it goes "well", the husband loses his spaces in the house and personal space in general, as well as ownership of his spare time and most of his money and property, becoming a shadow of his former self over the years.
If it goes bad, he loses everything: house, car, kids, a big chunk of his revenue, his dignity and possibly his freedom. Divorce courts and laws are 500% biased against the husband and I've seen this time and time again.
Completely not worth it from a risk/reward perspective.

Not to mention that marriage is basically unaffordable for my generation, at least where I live, but I digress.

I don't really know how it goes in Japan but it can't be any better than here.

Women want men to propose and "be serious"?
Well they should take them sticks out of their asses and come down from their pederstals first, and maybe stop choosing guys using their bank account as the only parameter of choice.

Just sayin'.

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Japan has a very different culture. One that breaks people and leaves only husks behind so yeah, I wouldn't compare Japan to western cultures.

sounds like something a beta would say

 

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eitherways I know of waaaay more alpha tough

as fuck Japanese guys than I do alpha anglo-saxon guys

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maybe stop choosing guys using their bank account as the only parameter of choice.

You saying that they shouldn't go for the Patrick Batemans of the world?

 

eitherways I know of waaaay more alpha tough

as fuck Japanese guys than I do alpha anglo-saxon guys

 

Outside of wrestling?

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Guest Katherlne

 

sounds like something a beta would say

 

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eitherways I know of waaaay more alpha tough

as fuck Japanese guys than I do alpha anglo-saxon guys

 

 

I give you some alpha :lol:

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I just think, if men's has category alpha,beta. What about a women's? I'm sub type, it's that mean i'm a beta women?

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sounds like something a beta would say

 

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eitherways I know of waaaay more alpha tough

as fuck Japanese guys than I do alpha anglo-saxon guys

 

 

I give you some alpha :lol:

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I just think, if men's has category alpha,beta. What about a women's? I'm sub type, it's that mean i'm a beta women?

 

 

Those alphas in the picture look dead too me. So betas are better.

 

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lol...the pecking order truly exists even in the human species...we have the Alphas and the Betas...and those that say those things don't exist...

 

if I choose to not marry for economical reasons does that make me a Beta?

 

funny that homo sapiens worth now are measured by ascending greek letters lol...

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I'm not MGTOW. But I do agree about the marriage. Fuck that cancer to hell. In fact fuck relationship in general. Fuck dating and the dating game.

I'm very old school in some way, and I can't stand keeping up with what you are supposed to do, and who is paying and fuck knows what.

 

And today, thx to the cancer 3rd way feminism and SJW's, you can't even barely look at women without almost getting accused of rape.

 

I will likely die alone, with no kids to carry my name forward. And it doesn't bother be the slightest. Fuck humanity! Just die out already you fucking disgusting cockroach. 

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“Why must the guy approach? This is discrimination!”

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THIS lol

 

 

"If a guy confesses his love to a woman nowadays it is treated as harassment, no wonder so few men do.”

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But this confuses me slightly... Is this a thing in the West too? Why can't a bigger majority of women just confess. I know some who've done it but apparently a majority is passive and waits for the man? Do women at least give signals to indicate they want the man to confess??

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lol...the pecking order truly exists even in the human species...we have the Alphas and the Betas...and those that say those things don't exist...

 

if I choose to not marry for economical reasons does that make me a Beta?

 

funny that homo sapiens worth now are measured by ascending greek letters lol...

"Alphas" are high in self-confidence and women find themselves naturally attracted to confident men. "Betas" had something beaten into them at some point that they're not good enough, to the point that they believe it, so they are either depressed, bitter, or have low confidence.

 

Choosing not to marry is not a sign of inferiority inherently, the reason why might give some insight as to why though, i.e. fear of cheating, divorce, etc.

“Why must the guy approach? This is discrimination!”

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THIS lol

 

 

"If a guy confesses his love to a woman nowadays it is treated as harassment, no wonder so few men do.”

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But this confuses me slightly... Is this a thing in the West too?

I guess some women would treat unwanted advances as harassment... also, out here, if the guy is cute, women will definitely approach them, I bet it's the same in Japan too.

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lol...the pecking order truly exists even in the human species...we have the Alphas and the Betas...and those that say those things don't exist...

 

if I choose to not marry for economical reasons does that make me a Beta?

 

funny that homo sapiens worth now are measured by ascending greek letters lol...

 

It does exists yes, but it kinda bothers me how we use it.

 

For example, a pack of wolves has only one Alpha. The rest is Betas. If everyone would be Alphas, there would be chaos in the pack.

Betas is needed for the group to function. If one of the Beats challenges the Alpha, and succeeds, he becomes the new Alpha.

 

We humans do not really compete in the same manner. Or even behave in the same way.

We share similarities, but that's pretty much it. When the word Beta is used as a insult, I cringe because being a Beta is not a negative thing.

Just as wolves, we need Betas to function. Betas are in a way, just as important as Alphas.

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You get rejected, you take a drink and try again with somebody else... you shouldn't just give up. That MGTOW thing is fine, so long as you don't give up on the dating scene all-together. And women need to learn that sometimes their standards are unrealistic and why they're alone.

 

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I guess some women would treat unwanted advances as harassment... also, out here, if the guy is cute, women will definitely approach them, I bet it's the same in Japan too.

 

 

Makes sense! Men can get pretty desperate sometimes for some reason. Why won't women go desperate for men...

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Why won't women go desperate for men...

 

"if the guy is cute, women will definitely approach them"

 

They do...  just some people think they're good enough to go out of their league. That sounds fucked up, but a 5 shouldn't expect a 9 and reject anything lower... but a lot of people do.

 

Edit: Regarding the men getting desperate, I compare it to a male dog following around a bitch whining and trying to get a lick at her hind quarters... when a mammal wants that peach, it can get pretty sad to watch from the outside perspective.

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I dont know, i had several longer lasting relationships and all of them were the same, at first it was nice, but with time all of the women started to be grumpy, always whining about something and ofcourse it was all my fault and sometimes when i looked at them i felt like their whole existence is only about blaming men for everything and then chasing after them.

 

I simply got bored of the game, there are far better things out there then loosing time with the ever increasing whiny women.

Ever since i stoped caring about them and started to focus on myself and things i like, im at peace.

 

I guess i became a beta, but a happy beta.

 

 

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