Popular Post Heliotropic Posted June 12, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2017 [Sims 4] Heavy Boobs View File Heavy Boobs is a collection of mods designed to increase the maximum size of breasts and improve their appearance. It's primarily a slider mod, meaning it affects every outfit of every female Sim in the game. Secondly, this mod adjusts several clothing meshes and adds some detail options. The goal of Heavy Boobs is to give larger breasts a more weighty appearance; having them sag a bit with rounded undersides as well as adding indications of nipples poking into thinner fabric. Installation Heavy Boobs Delete all files from previous versions, then drag the Heavy Boobs folder into your Mods folder. See the spoiler below for details on the Options folder. Navels Delete all files from previous versions, then drag the Navels folder into your Mods folder. See the spoiler below for DLC requirements. Mia Drag the files from Mia.zip into the Tray folder, which is in the same location as your Mods folder. See the spoiler below for additional requirements. Files Spoiler Heavy Boobs The core mod. Includes the following: Base HB Slider - Override. The CAS breast slider mod. Changes breast proportions to be fuller, and significantly larger overall HB Nude Default Top - Override. Custom high-poly nude mesh w/ nipples HB Cleavage Overlay - CAS standalone. Cleavage overlays designed to accommodate larger, heavier breasts. User trunnk made some additional swatches [BG] Bikini - Override. Custom mesh with improved shape and added nipple impressions. Includes touched-up textures [BG] Bra - Override. Custom mesh with improved shape and added nipple impressions [BG] Tank Top - Added CAS swatch. Custom mesh with added nipple impressions. Custom textures to remove transparent undershirt [BG] Low Neckline Tank - CAS standalone. Custom mesh with improved shape for the base game tank top with a low neckline. Includes touched-up textures [BY] Side Tie - CAS standalone. Custom mesh with improved shape and a few swatches for the tied-off top from the Backyard Stuff DLC. [DU] Cropped Hoodie - CAS standalone. Custom mesh with improved shape for the cropped hoodie from the Discover University DLC. [RM] Belted Top - CAS standalone. Custom mesh with improved shape for belted top from the Realm of Magic DLC. Options Alternate Cleavage Overlays - The HB Cleavage Overlay available in different skin detail slots Stand Alone Nude Top - The HB Nude Top as a stand alone top. Compatible with WickedWhims nudity options selection tool. Firm Nude Top Options - Old HB Nude Top as a stand alone and default replacement. This mesh has a much lower poly count, and doesn't deform as much from the "Chest Depth" slider. Stand alone version is compatible with WickedWhims nudity options selection tool. Alternative Sliders - Replace HB Slider with the HB Slider file found in: Small: The original HB Slider that offers relatively high mesh compatibility Large: Bigger boobs, mesh problems be damned Huge: Huge boobs, %$#@ meshes Navels A side project I've been working on that adds 3D navels to pants with exposed midriffs. Each file name includes a tag that points to the DLC required: [BG] Base Game [CK] Cool Kitchen [CL] City Living [Fi] Fitness [GT] Get Together [IL] Island Living [OR] Outdoor Retreat [Pa] Parenthood [SD] Spa Day [SV] Strangerville Mia The Sim I used in to model the preview shots for Heavy Boobs. She requires the DLC listed under her gallery entry as well as the following CC to load completely: My own Navels mod, available here Enhanced Butt Sliders by Cmar Female Waist and Hip Height Slider by Hellfrozeover Shoulder Height Slider by Hellfrozeover Female Body Details by Wildguy Smoothish II Skin by Luumia FAQ Spoiler "Help! This mod doesn't appear to be working in my game!" The meshes are only available at LOD 0, which means you will only see them at the highest "Sim Detail" setting. If you still aren't seeing all or part of this mod, odds are good you have a conflicting mod. "Is this mod compatible with [popular mod]?" Not if that mod does the same thing this one does. Any mod that adds nipples to the default nude mesh is overriding the same file as HB Nude Default Top and will conflict. Any mod that modifies the breast slider is overriding the same file as HB Slider and will conflict. "What happens when mods conflict?" When two mods modify the same resource the game will only use the last file it loads and discards the other. The game will not crash or even produce an error in most cases; the only indication you will have that there is a conflict is that the mod simply doesn't appear in the game. This can be particularly difficult to spot when you don't know what a mod looks like, or when two mods look very similar as is the case with most nude top replacements. "How can I test for a conflict?" Temporarily Set all mods but this one aside and load the game with only Heavy Boobs in your Mods folder. If it works, then you have a conflict somewhere. "Ok so I have a conflicting mod. But I have hundreds of mods, how do I know which one is causing the conflict?" I recommend adding your old mods back into your mods folder one half at a time and loading up the game to test. If Heavy Boobs still works you know it's not in that chunk of mods, if it breaks you know there's at least one conflict in that half. Once you have a chunk of mods you know contains a conflict keep cutting the loaded mods in half until you narrow down the culprit. "I have a conflicting mod but I love that mod. Can I still use it?" Sure! My mods are far from perfect and may not be to your liking. Just delete the relevant file from my mod and keep the mod you prefer. My slider mod will affect other meshes, and my meshes will be affected by other slider mods. "I have bumps where the nipples should be, but no nipples!" My mods only include meshes. You need textures! I recommend wild_guy's Female Body Details and luumia's Smoothish II skin. Complications Spoiler This mod makes Sims' breasts larger. Unfortunately, the mechanics of how exactly that effect is achieved aren't so simple. What's really happening is that this mod multiplies the effect the CAS Breast Size slider has on a Sim's figure. It doesn't extend the slider to go to 300%, it's makes 100% is 3x larger. This means that every female Sim in the game will become noticeably more endowed. Whether that's a problem is up to personal taste, but it leads into another problem: mesh deformation. Almost none of EA's meshes look good with a massively blown out body part slider. This is why I've gone to pains to modify a few tops for use with this mod, but there are a lot of female Townies out there and all of them are going to face this wardrobe problem. The ideal solution is to re-do every mesh in the game with high poly counts and finely tuned weights, but until that happens I recommend using Deaderpool's MC Command Center. With MCCC you can set CAS templates for ages and genders that limit the size of CAS parts. If you set the range of the Breast Size slider to "-100 to 35" instead of "-100 to 100" Sims will have their body shapes restricted to something approximating the EA default, so you won't have to micromanage their figures and wardrobes as much. You still have to change existing Sims depending on how you set it up, but MCCC makes adjusting other Sims easy both in CAS and through menus. Credits: CmarNYC for their Anatomy Mod Female top mesh which I used as a base.JS Sims for their Cleavage Overlay which I used as a base.EVOL_EVOLVED for their Breast Augmentation mod which directed me to the breast slider asset.lumialoversims for their Smoothish II skin.wild_guy for their Female Body Details mod.Andre for the Poser Player, and CatsBlob for their poses. Do not redistribute any part of this mod without permission. Submitter Heliotropic Submitted 06/12/2017 Category Uncategorized Requires Sims 4 41 Link to comment
jesusismyairbag Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Wow, this is really impressive work. I will be keeping this in my game for sure. Thanks The breasts look awesome! 1 Link to comment
Fleurra Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Gotta say this looks awesome. A most needed mod for TS4. Does it have compatibility issues with body retextures? Link to comment
InkySquid Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 If anyone is wondering I did some testing. It will not work with Cmar's default nipples but it WILL work with Better Body mod. I think the combination looks fantastic. Link to comment
InkySquid Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 If anyone is wondering I did some testing. It will not work with Cmar's default nipples but it WILL work with Better Body mod. I think the combination looks fantastic. Correction. It will not work with the better body top either since that is a default replacement. The Better Body bottom is fine to use with this. Well... I ran it in my game, testing each mod individually and both mods together and it gives me a different look. So correct yourself buddy. Link to comment
Heliotropic Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 Sorry folks, I wrote up a compatibility bit over at SexySims that I'll transfer over here. The short of it is that most of the files are default replacement meshes. The nude top is a default replacement and it will conflict with any other default nude top, but that's the mesh and not the texture. That is to say, the file that changes the shape of the body, positions and weights on the vertices, not the texture mapped over that shape. I'll try to cover this better in the original post. Link to comment
Just Checking Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Well that's pretty good. Never was a fan of the weird shaped gravity defying lumps. I actually spent a decent amount of time the first time I made a well endowed character trying to get her chest to look more natural, and just gave up when I figured it wasn't going to happen. So this'll actually be pretty nice. Link to comment
Anarcis Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Looks good, I'm not getting any nipples however. I had to remove BetterBody and Cmar's nipples for the mod to work. No nipples. Can't find any other mod that might be conflicting with that. Link to comment
Country_Boy Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 This looks awesome. And as for not having nipples, I simple took out you top like mentioned at SS and kept my cmar top and removed BB top and kept bottom and used one of my favorite overlays and this is the results. Link to comment
Heliotropic Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 Looks good, I'm not getting any nipples however. I had to remove BetterBody and Cmar's nipples for the mod to work. No nipples. Can't find any other mod that might be conflicting with that. I just updated the conflicts part so you may've missed it, but this mod does not add nipple textures on its own. It only adds the nipple shape. If you have the shape but not the texture then the mod is working and you need to add a nipple detail texture (I use Smoothish II). If you do not have the shape (or at least, the right shape, it can be hard to tell which is active in your game since a lot of the nude mods look pretty similar to each other) then there is still another conflicting mod somewhere. What you probably had was BetterBody Female Top and Cmar's EA Details mod, not Cmar's Female top w/ Nipples mod. BB Female Top and Cmar's Female Top are both default mesh replacements, neither of them have the texture, and if you had them both they'd conflict. That or you were using BB Female Top and Cmar's Nude in CAS replacement, which would partially conflict. Link to comment
Anarcis Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Looks good, I'm not getting any nipples however. I had to remove BetterBody and Cmar's nipples for the mod to work. No nipples. Can't find any other mod that might be conflicting with that. I just updated the conflicts part so you may've missed it, but this mod does not add nipple textures on its own. It only adds the nipple shape. If you have the shape but not the texture then the mod is working and you need to add a nipple detail texture (I use Smoothish II). If you do not have the shape (or at least, the right shape, it can be hard to tell which is active in your game since a lot of the nude mods look pretty similar to each other) then there is still another conflicting mod somewhere. What you probably had was BetterBody Female Top and Cmar's EA Details mod, not Cmar's Female top w/ Nipples mod. BB Female Top and Cmar's Female Top are both default mesh replacements, neither of them have the texture, and if you had them both they'd conflict. That or you were using BB Female Top and Cmar's Nude in CAS replacement, which would partially conflict. Sorry, I could've been clearer. I meant I was not getting any mesh; texture's not a problem. I did remove all of Hiroki and Cmar's breast-related mods, so it must be something else. I'll root around a bit more. Link to comment
Heliotropic Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 This looks awesome. And as for not having nipples, I simple took out you top like mentioned at SS and kept my cmar top and removed BB top and kept bottom and used one of my favorite overlays and this is the results. To be clear: cmar_FemaleTopNipples_*.package [bB][Female]Top.package [Helio] HB Nude Top*.package [fixed]LUUMIA_DR_TIT-E_Medium.package Are all default mesh replacements. They will conflict and only one will be active in your game. Having more than one does not benefit or change the other in any way, one simply overrides the other. Delete all those except the one you want to use. I recommend you set all of them outside of your mods folder and try them one at a time to see what each of them looks like. *Other meshes will appear different after installing my mod because another file, [Helio] Heavy Boobs.package changes the breast slider to increase their size and volume slightly. Link to comment
Heliotropic Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 Sorry, I could've been clearer. I meant I was not getting any mesh; texture's not a problem. I did remove all of Hiroki and Cmar's breast-related mods, so it must be something else. I'll root around a bit more. The culprit may be TURBODRIVER_WickedWhims_Overrides.package, which I mentioned in the updated conflicts section. I haven't tried WickedWhims yet, but I just looked at this particular file and it appears to include overrides for the yfTop_Nude and yf_Top_UnderwearSexy_Salmon CAS parts, which are necessary for making the nude top appear in CAS and preventing the strapless salmon bra from appearing on nude sims. I'm not sure what all else this file does. If I had to guess I'd say it looks like it changes game text to ask if a Sim has a Penis rather than asking if they stand up to urinate or whatever PG-rated language EA uses in CAS, and removes the mosaic nudity censor. User 0-Positive at SexySims reported that they removed this file without issue and corrected some conflict they were having, though they had to find another no-mosaic censor mod. Link to comment
Guest Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I have been running this for a few days now and love it! It works great with Cmars nips but that's the only breast mod I use. I love how natural they look and that you included that little skin detail to accentuate the heavier breasts. Link to comment
LewdA Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I think its pretty nice. it doesn't make all the females super busty and looks nice. so good job My 2 vampires love it Link to comment
Anarcis Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I do love what this mod does for heavier breasts, it's what I've wished for since forever. It's a shame that using it precludes BetterBody - that one did wonders for smaller breasts. Luxury of choices! Link to comment
fordirty Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I do love what this mod does for heavier breasts, it's what I've wished for since forever. It's a shame that using it precludes BetterBody - that one did wonders for smaller breasts. Luxury of choices! I've found that BetterBody top no longer works in my game. I took pictures of some girls with and without the female top file in - and they looked the same. Not sure why it stopped working for me, since it apparently works for others still. I love the shape of this mesh! I just have one nitpick, and I'm so sorry in advance for picking on this, but it does actually bug me a little. There's a bump on the underside of the breast. Here's the before and after installing your mod, so you can see the difference. Close up Those two girls were pre-made, so I decided to make a new, better-endowed sim from scratch. It's less pronounced on new sims I think, but I still see it. If it's not too much trouble, could this be smoothed out? Otherwise I love this mod! EDIT: I discovered that this issue only shows up on girls who have less than the mid-way point of body muscle. Here are a couple screenshots to show what I mean. http://puu.sh/wisVZ/aca1b2937e.jpg Midway on muscle slider, no bump. http://puu.sh/wisXa/bfb0eb415c.jpg No muscle, apparent bump. Link to comment
NaughtyTinkerbellSims Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Wooot! Glad to see this on here! and thanks for the tip! They look awesome ingame Link to comment
Heliotropic Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 I've found that BetterBody top no longer works in my game. I took pictures of some girls with and without the female top file in - and they looked the same. Not sure why it stopped working for me, since it apparently works for others still. I love the shape of this mesh! I just have one nitpick, and I'm so sorry in advance for picking on this, but it does actually bug me a little. There's a bump on the underside of the breast. Thank you very much for providing this feedback and the screenshots. I only test on a couple body types and only really examine the one so this helps tremendously. This looks like a case of breast bone weight too low and vertex too far out to compensate. I'm partially away from my work-on-this-stuff computer this week but I'll look into this ASAP. I'm afraid I don't see the bump on the bustier screenshot. In fact I see a small divit lower on the breast, one that I know about and have been wrestling with for awhile. The game engine really doesn't like that "sag" and rounded underside, it's a nightmare of normals not pointing the right way because entire rows of vertices on the undeformed mesh sit lower than those they should be sitting above after it's been deformed. I discovered the effect quite by accident while screwing with bone weights and have been working backwards to get it looking ok ever since. It took me about 120 generations of minor adjustments just to get the shape looking as smooth as it is now (for larger breasts only, evidently). You see that bump at the top of the areola on the right breast with Cmar's Mod? Fixing that is how this mod started! And don't get me started on the problems I had with the sternum! Look closely at any of these nude meshes from enough angles and things get really lumpy, Link to comment
fordirty Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I've found that BetterBody top no longer works in my game. I took pictures of some girls with and without the female top file in - and they looked the same. Not sure why it stopped working for me, since it apparently works for others still. I love the shape of this mesh! I just have one nitpick, and I'm so sorry in advance for picking on this, but it does actually bug me a little. There's a bump on the underside of the breast. Thank you very much for providing this feedback and the screenshots. I only test on a couple body types and only really examine the one so this helps tremendously. This looks like a case of breast bone weight too low and vertex too far out to compensate. I'm partially away from my work-on-this-stuff computer this week but I'll look into this ASAP. I'm afraid I don't see the bump on the bustier screenshot. In fact I see a small divit lower on the breast, one that I know about and have been wrestling with for awhile. The game engine really doesn't like that "sag" and rounded underside, it's a nightmare of normals not pointing the right way because entire rows of vertices on the undeformed mesh sit lower than those they should be sitting above after it's been deformed. I discovered the effect quite by accident while screwing with bone weights and have been working backwards to get it looking ok ever since. It took me about 120 generations of minor adjustments just to get the shape looking as smooth as it is now (for larger breasts only, evidently). You see that bump at the top of the areola on the right breast with Cmar's Mod? Fixing that is how this mod started! And don't get me started on the problems I had with the sternum! Look closely at any of these nude meshes from enough angles and things get really lumpy, No problem! Thanks for listening to my feedback, much appreciated! I made an edit to my earlier post, because I figured out which body "type" specifically this issue showed up on. It appears to show up on less-muscular girls. I provided a couple more screenshots, too. Link to comment
Heliotropic Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 No problem! Thanks for listening to my feedback, much appreciated! I made an edit to my earlier post, because I figured out which body "type" specifically this issue showed up on. It appears to show up on less-muscular girls. I provided a couple more screenshots, too. Aaah... Looking at all these together it looks like it it may not be a "bump" as much as it is a divot from the vertex in the row lower on the mesh. I'm glad you found that it's more a function of the fitness slider than it is the Breast slider, that's probably why I missed it completely; I tested the breast and weight sliders a lot but never moved the fitness slider around much due to its relatively small influence on breast deformation. I hope this ends up being a simple matter of adding a missing weight to some vertex I cut into the mesh. If the fitness slider doesn't end up being Spine0 or Spine1 this is probably going to be a massive headache. Link to comment
bob priddon Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Best Breast's up to now a good depth Link to comment
LordSupah Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Hi! Can u make a similar mod for the thighs and butt? I already have the packages that increase these two parts, but they aren't so good. I can make available the 2 packs for you download if you want to edit. Thx Link to comment
Kucu091 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Hi! Can u make a similar mod for the thighs and butt? I already have the packages that increase these two parts, but they aren't so good. I can make available the 2 packs for you download if you want to edit. Thx Yeah please! It'd be so cool if Heliotropic could make a version of "Heavy Butt" or something like that. I agree with that Link to comment
Heliotropic Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 I'm flattered that some of you would like me to take a crack (hah) at making a butt, but there's a lot I gotta do up front before I move on to the back. The nude mesh still needs work, 2 of these meshes are still BETA as is the cleavage overlay, and I still have at least half a dozen more bras and bikinis to get them all lookin good. There's a great deal I'm not in love with in the whole hips region in Sims 4, and it would take some work to correct. For starters the navel is simply too low relative to the groin, which is either a job for a skin detail overlay or a skin replacement. It leaves the distance the "waist" has to gradate out and becomes the "hips" too narrow, so there isn't enough space for one to "round" into the other. This is why thicc Sims' hips seem to "jut out" as opposed to fill out and it's gonna take a lotta vertex weight adjustment to fix. I might be able to cheese this just by pushing/strengthening the weights for the waist slider higher up on the torso, but I really have no idea how ugly it's gonna get till I get my hands on it. Additionally, one of the axes for the thigh slider is set too high (I'm guessing the Y-Axis if the breast slider is any indication). They inflate forward-back too quickly relative to how wide they get and tend to jut forward out of the hips, and finding that slider is going to be an absolute shit show. All that and I'd still have to contour the butt. Link to comment
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