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Very important lore:

 

We've got Four-Play now and it's great. I love it. A couple of days ago I was using it on a new save and I reached the Diamond City gate. I went through the dialogue with Piper, then McDonough. When I talked to him there was a speech check option that I utilised with the Vanilla Fudge mod for Four-Play by Vinfamy that makes your character fuck the NPCs after the conversation if you chose the speech option within 5 seconds of it showing up. So having heard it all before, I skipped the dialogue with him and somehow that led to a gap in the conversation before Piper chimed in about the state of the city or whatever. In that gap, I was given the Vanilla Fudge "sex" option and I took it. This made my character and Mr. Mayor get down on the ground to do the dirty, but Piper's speech was next to play. This made the camera focus on her looking down at McDonough. She had to speak over the moans from him and my character, which was pretty funny. Then when the Mayor's line came up, he said it from the ground looking up at Piper, and the camera was behind my character's ass while it bounced up and down. It was a pretty great angle. It also made it seem like the Mayor was mad at Piper for talking while getting it on. This gave me an idea.

 

And here's the idea:

 

The dialogue camera is a new thing for Fallout 4 that appears to work pretty well at getting face. I've done a search for something like this but it's mostly people who want to turn it off so it's more like New Vegas and 3. Why don't we use it to make sex scenes from Four-Play more cinematic? There could be a hotkey to turn it on/off, a button to cycle angles (it wouldn't have to be the vanilla dialogue angles if someone knows how to put the camera anywhere). It could completely replace tfc and require no/minimal manual control.

 

This might be achieved by being able to initiate an empty conversation like the one in Vanilla Fudge that's between asking for sex and having sex, but angle options like that would be limited to the vanilla angles and the empty conversation would be likely to end before or after the sex animations finish if someone wants to skip an empty line to get to a desired shot or if the conversation is too long to account for someone's personal camera-switching preferences.

 

Taking it further, a speech choice could be optional to use for the player character (maybe NPC too?) to make them dirty talk while fucking, but this might be more of a framework suggestion. I don't know.

 

Big thanks to DocClox, Crazy, Leito and everyone else involved for bringing the Commonwealth a different kind of action. You da best <3

 

 

Testing:

I tried to get it to happen again with Vanilla Fudge but the sex option would only appear at the very end of Piper and McDonough's argument. I used Leito's animation guns instead of Vanilla Fudge for my player character with a guard in the middle of the conversation, and for Piper with McDonough. I've noticed that when a conversation animation like the Mayor shrugging his shoulders plays it stops his part of the sex animation and makes him just stand back up. For a mod to begin sex in the middle of dialogue, these conversation animations would need to be overridden to keep the sex anim playing. Making it so the dialogue camera angles are available outside of dialogue would probably be simpler. The first screenshot has the guard's foot inside my character's neck for some reason, but at least it shows the dialogue camera points the right way. Evidence here:

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I thought about this a while back. Along with actual dialogues during sex to add interactivity (dirty talk, ask to cum outside etc).

 

The dialogue camera is potentially one of the things that can make sex modding in FO4 better than Skyrim.

 

May give it a test run once I get some free time. Then up to Doc whether he wants to incorporate into the framework or not.

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