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Hello,

 

I would love to see mods that add sexism to the game, some kind of mod like Sexist/Derogatory Guards (www.loverslab.com/files/file/2959-sexistderogatory-guards-npcs-and-player-comments/). But with more concrete modifications. Like male NPCs could come at your female character claiming all her gold/stuff. If the player refuses, he can go to jail for disobeying a man. He could also force the player to marry him. At the enter of cities, guards could also force the player to take off all her clothes and armors, just like Slaverun. Merchants could refuse to sell to the player their stuff, followers to come with her, and guild chiefs to admit her into their guild without a little present from her ;) When the player would wear an armor, every NPCs would make fun of her and occasionally take it off. Female characters would also have to pay a kind of tax, and if they can't, they would go to jail.

Of course all of this would be better with Prison Overhaul combined

 

It would be great if sexist behavior was applied to the player's husband too. He could, when you just get married, require all the player's stuff except clothes, and force her to bring him some food or drink. He could also force her to prostitute herself for money or to have sex with him, of course

 

So I was wondering if that kind of mod hasn't be already made, if not I hope someone will make one

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I second this. I really imagine that the time period Skyrim takes place in isn't exactly all about women's rights or equality. There are even some references and comments by NPCs about misogyny. Olfinia Gray-Mane says "It's not easy being a woman in Skyrim, I know. But stay strong, men will come to respect you, and maybe even fear you." and Carlotta Valentia is being sexually harassed by Mikael the bard. That punk is really full of himself and a real sexist.

 

I really enjoyed the misogyny part of Cursed Loot. But being surprised bound all the time wasn't for me and I was really just installing the mod to use that feature - I wish that part of the mod would be turned into a stand alone. I want my PC to live in a harsh world and work hard to overcome all the sexist crap she has to deal with on a daily basis.

 

Someone please make a misogynistic mod! xoxo


Cursed Loot takes care of this, where you can enable "misogyny" and experience most of what you asked.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1216-deviously-cursed-loot/

 

Yeah, but like I mentioned, if bondage isn't your thing or you don't want to be bound all the time, it's a bit pointless to download the mod just so that you will disable everything except the misogynistic parts.

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I second this. I really imagine that the time period Skyrim takes place in isn't exactly all about women's rights or equality. There are even some references and comments by NPCs about misogyny. Olfinia Gray-Mane says "It's not easy being a woman in Skyrim, I know. But stay strong, men will come to respect you, and maybe even fear you." and Carlotta Valentia is being sexually harassed by Mikael the bard. That punk is really full of himself and a real sexist.

 

I really enjoyed the misogyny part of Cursed Loot. But being surprised bound all the time wasn't for me and I was really just installing the mod to use that feature - I wish that part of the mod would be turned into a stand alone. I want my PC to live in a harsh world and work hard to overcome all the sexist crap she has to deal with on a daily basis.

 

Someone please make a misogynistic mod! xoxo

Cursed Loot takes care of this, where you can enable "misogyny" and experience most of what you asked.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1216-deviously-cursed-loot/

 

Yeah, but like I mentioned, if bondage isn't your thing or you don't want to be bound all the time, it's a bit pointless to download the mod just so that you will disable everything except the misogynistic parts.

 

You said everything ^_^

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A lot of good ideas.

The merchant "thing" is a feature of my own mod

 

 

Just checked it, and indeed the trader feature is cool, but I was thinking of a mod where the player is forced to undress to buy stuff for example, like she would disagree with all of that sexism but can't succeed to stop it

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Just some ideas/suggestions if someone were to make a pure misogyny mod:

 

  • Before becoming Thane of a city: Guards will stop you at the gate/city entrance, say sexist and humiliating things, demand a tax to enter the city (like in Riften), but they really mean it and take gold from your inventory. Depending on what you say after would result in either being forced to remove your clothing - while the guards comment - or being assaulted (especially at night). The guards could also put you in a situation in which you have to provide sexual favors before entering the city even after taking gold from you. Animation tags could be restricted to oral and/or hand jobs. Guards and male NPCs will always give you a hard time and say nasty things to you.

 

  • As in BadIdea57's mod, vendors will also heckle and say misogynistic things and can refuse to sell you goods unless you show some skin. Again, depending on what you say to that could result in the vendors out right refusing to sell anything to you for a period of time or they could say meaner things if you refuse and sell goods to you anyway, perhaps at a higher price - they, of course, will tell you why they are charging you more.

 

  • Certain vendors could also say derogatory and sexist things if per say you were to go to a blacksmith and purchase weapons and they might say "A woman has no need for such things." or "You must be buying this for your husband." etc.

 

  • Public nudity is a crime like in Cursed Loot. Even if you were stripped by an NPC or got naked for a vendor, you will get arrested.

 

  • Horrible treatment in jail. Integration with other mods would be great with this such as iNeed or Realistic Needs and Diseases where you are given either nothing to eat and drink or spoiled food and you get sick or are weak from starvation. Apropos with Slave Tats for wear and tear and perhaps getting branded or tattooed by a jailer. PO as an option since some of us aren't ever able to get that awesome mod to work.... Assault and whipping in prison is a given and I would like to see options given to the prisoner from the jailer or guards in which they will offer actual meals and water or an early release in return for sex. Bathing in Skyrim would be a great integration as well because it lowers your speechcraft if you are dirty and trying to persuade the jailer to release you or give you better food would result in insulting comments and a flat out "No!".

 

  • There is a set percentage (via MCM) that patrons at inns will coerce you to drink, and may even put a paralyzing elixir in it to take advantage of you, or be made to dance naked for them. Failing to comply will result in having your clothes striped and possibly assaulted.

 

  • Being nude greatly arouses men and you are more likely to be raped if seen nude in public.

 

  • Another couple of features I loved from Cursed Loot, and would love to see in a stand alone mod, would be the chance to be assaulted at night - and the chances are high if you do not have weapons - as well as a chance that the male NPC you are talking to will demand sex with very similar choices and results like in CL.

 

  • Choice via MCM whether or not your husband will be misogynistic or not and demand home-cooked meals and sex, he will tell you exactly what kind of sex he wants.

 

I would love to see these actions in the mod's MCM and we can set the percentages of events to happen, how much gold is taken (or weapons), etc. Again, just some thoughts and ideas. I know there are a lot of mods out there that do some of these things, but it would be great to have it all in one package. xoxo

 

EDIT: I mentioned "Before becoming Thane of a city" because it's nice to be respected after you've earned that title. I'm not saying that men won't still be assholes, however the guards will kinda have to be nice to you now.

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Hey there.

 

I'm new to the modding scene but I'd like to give this a try. If it is okay with you, MsOtaku, I'll take your ideas as a frame to build the mod around.

 

Yay! Thank you that's really nice from you :lol:

 

 

And thank you for starting this thread, Ombrage! :heart: xoxo

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Hey there.

 

I'm new to the modding scene but I'd like to give this a try. If it is okay with you, MsOtaku, I'll take your ideas as a frame to build the mod around.

 

Yay! Thank you that's really nice from you :lol:

 

 

And thank you for starting this thread, Ombrage! :heart: xoxo

 

 

It's okay haha I just wanted to share an idea of mine, but thanks to you for having added some more great ideas :)

 

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Just some ideas/suggestions if someone were to make a pure misogyny mod:

 

  • Before becoming Thane of a city: Guards will stop you at the gate/city entrance, say sexist and humiliating things, demand a tax to enter the city (like in Riften), but they really mean it and take gold from your inventory. Depending on what you say after would result in either being forced to remove your clothing - while the guards comment - or being assaulted (especially at night). The guards could also put you in a situation in which you have to provide sexual favors before entering the city even after taking gold from you. Animation tags could be restricted to oral and/or hand jobs. Guards and male NPCs will always give you a hard time and say nasty things to you.

 

  • As in BadIdea57's mod, vendors will also heckle and say misogynistic things and can refuse to sell you goods unless you show some skin. Again, depending on what you say to that could result in the vendors out right refusing to sell anything to you for a period of time or they could say meaner things if you refuse and sell goods to you anyway, perhaps at a higher price - they, of course, will tell you why they are charging you more.

 

  • Certain vendors could also say derogatory and sexist things if per say you were to go to a blacksmith and purchase weapons and they might say "A woman has no need for such things." or "You must be buying this for your husband." etc.

 

  • Public nudity is a crime like in Cursed Loot. Even if you were stripped by an NPC or got naked for a vendor, you will get arrested.

 

  • Horrible treatment in jail. Integration with other mods would be great with this such as iNeed or Realistic Needs and Diseases where you are given either nothing to eat and drink or spoiled food and you get sick or are weak from starvation. Apropos with Slave Tats for wear and tear and perhaps getting branded or tattooed by a jailer. PO as an option since some of us aren't ever able to get that awesome mod to work.... Assault and whipping in prison is a given and I would like to see options given to the prisoner from the jailer or guards in which they will offer actual meals and water or an early release in return for sex. Bathing in Skyrim would be a great integration as well because it lowers your speechcraft if you are dirty and trying to persuade the jailer to release you or give you better food would result in insulting comments and a flat out "No!".

 

  • There is a set percentage (via MCM) that patrons at inns will coerce you to drink, and may even put a paralyzing elixir in it to take advantage of you, or be made to dance naked for them. Failing to comply will result in having your clothes striped and possibly assaulted.

 

  • Being nude greatly arouses men and you are more likely to be raped if seen nude in public.

 

  • Another couple of features I loved from Cursed Loot, and would love to see in a stand alone mod, would be the chance to be assaulted at night - and the chances are high if you do not have weapons - as well as a chance that the male NPC you are talking to will demand sex with very similar choices and results like in CL.

 

  • Choice via MCM whether or not your husband will be misogynistic or not and demand home-cooked meals and sex, he will tell you exactly what kind of sex he wants.

 

I would love to see these actions in the mod's MCM and we can set the percentages of events to happen, how much gold is taken (or weapons), etc. Again, just some thoughts and ideas. I know there are a lot of mods out there that do some of these things, but it would be great to have it all in one package. xoxo

 

EDIT: I mentioned "Before becoming Thane of a city" because it's nice to be respected after you've earned that title. I'm not saying that men won't still be assholes, however the guards will kinda have to be nice to you now.

 

I can't promise 100% but that is sort of the direction my Sexist Guards mod is going. One of the new things I'm working on is adding traits and personalities to the player character. It would be a small step to then apply extra traits to NPCs which would then effect how they react with the player.

 

You could have traits that effect only spouses which would power some of your suggestions above.

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I can't promise 100% but that is sort of the direction my Sexist Guards mod is going. One of the new things I'm working on is adding traits and personalities to the player character. It would be a small step to then apply extra traits to NPCs which would then effect how they react with the player.

 

You could have traits that effect only spouses which would power some of your suggestions above.

 

 

Make it happen!!! xoxo

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I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss DCL.

 

It handles a lot of what you want right out of the box, and handles it quite well imo. And you can lock down the rest of it.

 

Wandering around after dark might get you jumped? Yup. A lot of other mods struggle with the 'might' part of that functionality, which adds suspense and variety to it.

Set it up so that any of Naked, Dark or Horny can get you jumped? Yup. Or you can go for '2 out of three' if you like.

Guy's demand sex when you talk to them? Yup.

Get caught having sex in public and the guards then take advantage? Yup.

Get taken advantage of in your sleep? Yup.

 

I'm not aware of any other mod that handles this sort of thing as well as DCL does. Maria Eden is the only one that jumps to mind that might but I think it's more an epic prostitution mod, whereas DCL is more a series-of-unfortunate-events kinda thing.

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I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss DCL.

 

It handles a lot of what you want right out of the box, and handles it quite well imo. And you can lock down the rest of it.

 

Wandering around after dark might get you jumped? Yup. A lot of other mods struggle with the 'might' part of that functionality, which adds suspense and variety to it.

Set it up so that any of Naked, Dark or Horny can get you jumped? Yup. Or you can go for '2 out of three' if you like.

Guy's demand sex when you talk to them? Yup.

Get caught having sex in public and the guards then take advantage? Yup.

Get taken advantage of in your sleep? Yup.

 

I'm not aware of any other mod that handles this sort of thing as well as DCL does. Maria Eden is the only one that jumps to mind that might but I think it's more an epic prostitution mod, whereas DCL is more a series-of-unfortunate-events kinda thing.

 

I agree about DCL as it is a standard part of my playthrough and Kimy has made it very stable. other mods over the years have done various parts of what people want from this but ideally having a "framework" that has all integrated with MCM options to turn on/off features would be good, but then other mod authors can create links to the "framework". ie Slaverun Reloaded combined with DCL does most of what people are asking for here, but it also breaks alot of miscellaneous quests, so i only play it when i dont care about the other quests in game.

 

I have never seen DCL break any of the miscellaneous in game quests.

 

my only concern is we get too many mods trying to do similar things and then have compatibility issues and lag from all the scripts competing. its one of the issues with Prison Overhaul as it is very script heavy and causes serious lag sometimes. surely it could be updated to not be so script heavy.

 

we need a modder with the dedication of Kimy to look at what all the miscellaneous mods like the abandoned "DD more Devious quest", slaverun reloaded, SL kidnapped, player exhibitionist etc do and make it work.

 

I would suggest they liaise with Kimy so the mod or framework doesn't cause issues with DCL, and is able to be standalone for someone wanting a mod that doesnt include devious devices but can be used by someone that does use DD. Ie if it detects DCL is installed, the new mod automatically disables the parts of it that are derived from the Misogny part of DCL.

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maybe mixedupjim or kimy could integrate part of sexlab sexual fame into their mods, would like to see them work together to reduce script doublups too. i use it in my game with DCL and sexist guards and it turns my female dragonborn into a well known slut, and attracts more attention from npcs and guards. I also use sexlab paysexcrime mod, which gives an alternate option to going to jail and also if you turn on guard approach they will approach the player for sex to wipe bounties etc

 

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This is a old thread but cart drivers, could it be that a trip cost twice for female and they have to nude or register to some deal to even be allowed to use carts. There could be some sort of thing where they rob the female pc and leave her just somewhere.   

 

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