Is it really dead?

[protocolk]

Lots of people said that fallout 4 is a shit game. On the beggining they believed that mods wouldfix it,but now they say its dead... But its really?

 

I mean its the worst Fallout game, but its still pretty fun to play and they release pretty awesome mods for it times to times, wich is surprising counting that F4SE is mostly a placeholder and they stopped its work u till they get SKSE64 working properly. I really believe that it can become great when we have a proper script extender.

 

maybe well get new factions and quests overhauls by adding more than 4 options to the shit talk in the vanilla game, or a decent alternate start that allowus to say fuck shaun Im nort your dad, Im a random wastelander doing random shit! Maybe well have the best sex framework yet because of it tech.

 

I belive that fallout 4can be fixed in time, just like Skyrim was fixed in time, because well Skyrim main quest was shit not the sameshitstorm as fallout 4 one but still shit. On other hand nuka wiorld and some questlines are really fun.

 

So what you perople think?Can wemakefallout 4 a great game one day?

[Silas]

In my own opinion here, the biggest turn off for Fallout 4 for me is also a very simple and silly one: It was taking the "RP" out of the "RPG".

 

The voice-acting, family man/woman trying to find your son kind of sets in stone your own character already without much development I feel. That's not to say the rest of the game isn't good. I just enjoyed the Fallout element of how MUCH good and evil you could do in the fallout series. Like in Fallout 3, having the option to blow up the first town you go to, it was just brutally amazing! I was kind of hoping Fallout 4 was going to go back to that, but it did not, which makes me a little sad and I don't think modding could do much without removing such a critical story from the game? I hope I'm wrong there.

 

As I said, it's just a personal thought on it, not that I hate the game or anything, but it was the biggest turn-off element for me!

[azoth1267]

Mechanically, fo4 feels better than the others did, so thats good but the rest of the game feels half done to me.

The gun play is much better, but thats always been secondary to the game honestly.

 

Settlement building is a neat concept to have (if not very overdone by now), but its lackluster at best or just plain boring/bad.

Quite a few mods are needed just to make it less bad, but its still not the great thing they pushed it as... it just works, like shit. For something that is totally not needed to play the game and it really wont be something you are forced to do if you dont want to... you sure are forced to do it a damn lot.

 

Story is lacking on many fronts, full of obvious plot points and no real character. Honestly speaking though, i cant write for shit, so its still miles higher quality than i could ever make.

Really though, there are not many people in the game that i will remember as anything more than npc number who cares.

 

F4SE is nice and any additions to it is welcome in my book, but i wont hold my breath on "fixing" the game.

Not knocking on f4se crew or even on the game as a whole (i sure cant make a game), but i just dont think there is much else that can be done with the game.

Im 100% sure that more mods will come and some will likely even make the game better, but there is only so much that can be done with a game that is half done from the start.

[quarzo]

for me fallout 4 is a good game, but when i remember the great role play and history inmersion i has with the previous fallout, then i rage unistall it xd-  i am here sit waiting for aleast a basic sexout for try  play again this game.

 

i think this game cant be fixed (add karma, real spech desitions etc)

[myuhinny]

Yes it's dead. Dig a hole throw it in cover it up and forget about it and start thinking about what their next game is going to be or forget about them all together and go play something else.

[meme supreme]

I liked FO4. It's easily the best first/third person shooter Bethesda made, and I value it pretty highly because of that.

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

I dunno.. is it dead?

 

[Delzaron]

with mods, anuthing is possible. On Nexus and here, there are some very good informaticians... an alternate start mod was already made.

[spoonsinger]

I suspect it paid for itself in terms of development costs and more, so the dev's will be happy. It's a nice idea that it can be modded to fix/add things but there is no real comeback to the developers from that other than that feature is there. They can probably get another two crummy games out of the engine by cutting stuff out just from old world loyalty/ignorance. (Just looking back at Daggerfall and thinking if only this could have been done or that. All expansive ideas on the theme at the time and totally possible today, but they went the other way. Phone game direction).

[Halstrom]

Well you can always go back to playing Fallout 1 & 2 because they are obviously better games in your view.

They might have been good when we were playing on Commodore 64s, but I'd still rather play the later ones.

Aren't there already plenty of "I hate Bethsanda/Fallout" threads you could have used?

[Cock Sucker]

trololololol ?

[Torchersphix]

I'm going to say no

 

There are new weapon mods etc...coming out all the time on Nexus. 

 

In regards to LL things, yea, progress is really slow and you can check the linked thread: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/61259-sextec-sexlab-sexout-etc-container-thread/page-71

 

In the last summary obviously we're still missing a lot: 

 

 

 

Wait so, I saw you guys were waiting for script extender, and sorry for my ignorance cause I'm really bad with this kinda stuff but, isn't that what f4se is?

yes, but it does not have the functions of skse yet, f4se is not in full release yet

 

 

Ahhhhhhhhhhh. That's kinda answered on the FAQ part of the Main Post on this thread, but even I missed that one at first. Maybe a different phrasing would stop people constantly asking. 
Like:
 

Q: "SexTec" ETA?

A: Can't provide an ETA at this time. To proceed beyond a certain point we will need: a fully working F4SE (the current version is missing key functions), a fully working CK, and the ability for Animators to create new Animations (that is not an easy task now). 

 

With the clarification edits in green.

Though that's just a random suggestion. 

 

 

 

But recently there have been huge improvements, and these are only a few that I've recently looked at:

 

We just got jiggly physics finally thanks to: http://www.loverslab.com/user/24498-cherryhotaling/

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/73037-cherry-hotalings-cbbe-physics-mod-chcbbep/

 

Huge amounts of clothing options thanks to: http://www.loverslab.com/user/1381747-bumex/

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/72183-fo4-clothing-conversions-from-skyrim-wip/page-22

 

Leito just necro'd his thread: http://www.loverslab.com/user/126630-leito86/

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/57587-commonwealth-creature-features-and-animations-by-leito/page-5

 

Some animations by Crazy6987: http://www.loverslab.com/user/533947-crazy6987/

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/68016-crazy6987-sex-animation/

 

Devious Devices are a thing again thanks to: http://www.loverslab.com/user/454415-kimy/

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/73925-devious-devices-12/

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/66941-deviously-cursed-wasteland-12/

 

and lastly Boston Breeder (Fertile Breeder Successor) has something up: http://www.loverslab.com/user/429874-pepertje/

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/73312-boston-breeder/

 

Yea progress is slow and will probably be worse with all the new games just released (for honor, Neir, Horizon Zero Dawn, Nintendo Switch + Zelda, Berserk, Ghost Recon, etc...) but it's definitely still going. 

 

[Baron Samedi]

Fallout 4 was a mixed bag. Thats the only way I can ever describe it.

 

Mechanicly its the best I've seen it. The gunplay being the tightest yet.

HOWEVER they gutted the rpg element from it for some reason as yet unknown to me.

 

The mod scene for Fallout 4 has been pretty slow. Not least because they have been really spiteful with things like the CK (which I maintain would have been out day 1 if they were not shut down on paid mods.)

 

inb4 paid mods make their comeback.

 

 

[Antioch666]

I like the open world, settlement building, and the freedom to do whatever one wants alongside the main quest.

 

Without mods I would've already moved on, though. Give it a few months and maybe someone will come up with something clever quest-wise :-)

 

Never was a big RP'er

[spoonsinger]

Well you can always go back to playing Fallout 1 & 2 because they are obviously better games in your view.

They might have been good when we were playing on Commodore 64s, but I'd still rather play the later ones.

Aren't there already plenty of "I hate Bethsanda/Fallout" threads you could have used?

 

Sorry that was just a silly retort. FO 1 & 2 were never on the C64, (I assume from your background you were just making it as some weird suggestion to appeal to the youngsters in some sort of peer pressure scenario). However if you actually played games at a certain point, (which I know you have because you mod here), I suspect you have looked at something and said 'fuck that particular principle can be expanded on given enough processing power and time. Heh! I'm young it will happen' - only for that vision to be dashed by the commercialized twenty minute at a time packaged experience which has come about from the touch finger hipster crowd of today.

[alucrad90]

Sorry that was just a silly retort. FO 1 & 2 were never on the C64, (I assume from your background you were just making it as some weird suggestion to appeal to the youngsters in some sort of peer pressure scenario). However if you actually played games at a certain point, (which I know you have because you mod here), I suspect you have looked at something and said 'fuck that particular principle can be expanded on given enough processing power and time. Heh! I'm young it will happen' - only for that vision to be dashed by the commercialized twenty minute at a time packaged experience which has come about from the touch finger hipster crowd of today.

Fallout4 is just the "elder scroll with gun", which change the most shity part of skyrim to something not like a shit. It's not and will never be the "Fallout" game you like

 

So, why don't you go and play wasteland2/3 or Pillars of Eternity?

I really can't understand why there are people from everywhere come to a fallout4 formu and shouted "your game is a piece of shit".

 

Yeah we know the game we are playing the game we like and the game we are modding is worse than shit, so can you guys do something more "creative"?

 

For example ,make a story mod. It's quite easy.

[gregathit]

Please use the existing thread:  http://www.loverslab.com/topic/63464-status-of-fo4-scene-almost-dead/

 

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