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Honestly I'm not scared of any new US surveillance laws, what government agencies would be doing unannounced beyond public scrutiny is far more terrifying.  You give a group of people near absolute power in the name of security then give them ability to make certain elements of their actions classified and it all pretty much comes crumbling down to a complete level of depravity.  

 

All it takes is a small group of corrupt, or well meaning, idiots in a high position of authority to hide most of it; at least in my opinion.


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Strange, seems governments always willing to attribute more effort to forbid talking about crime instead of really solving the crimes...Like UN guys who tried so hard to ban Japanese rape porn instead of actually helping.


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You know that these officials creating these surveillance laws have for some of them way darker fetishes than anyone here? Like pedophilia, webcam murder, satanism ...

 

They will allow for some spying but going too far would be a no no because their ugly little secrets would be exposed.


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You know that these officials creating these surveillance laws have for some of them way darker fetishes than anyone here? Like pedophilia, webcam murder, satanism ...

 

They will allow for some spying but going too far would be a no no because their ugly little secrets would be exposed.

 

 

It's all for collecting embarrassing shit they can use as leverage to encourage people with some status to do what they want them to, or to shut up people who rock the boat too much.  Ordinary people with a kinky fetish don't have to worry so long as they don't advertise.  Personally I hope they do bust more pedophiles and child pornographers but I don't think all that much will change.  Every time I hear about the snuff shit I want to fucking throw up.  It's really disturbing to think about the crap people are doing to other people out there like sexual slavery and exploitation.


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Wouldn't surprise that if someday soon they pass a law allowing them to inform your neighbors and workplace of such 'fetishes' without actually having to convict you of anything and the fact that it's cartoon or video game won't matter.  One day everyone within a mile of you gets a letter with your name, address and photo on it.  They'll call it a 'proactive' effort to protect children.  As far as I'm concerned if you have ANYTHING you don't want someone else to know about you had better do EVERYTHING you can to keep it from being known by someone else otherwise you may find yourself homeless and jobless and continuously harassed even though you have never really done anything wrong except for having fantasies society doesn't approve of.

 

In Britain and Germany, one can already receive a visit from the police if you post something deeming "hateful" by the government on social media.  And many businesses have either fired people for harboring "incorrect" political views or been the target of thugs activists looking to punish individuals for holding "wrong" beliefs.

 

Though I doubt we'll witness the state do a serious crackdown on pedophilia anytime soon as there are many well-documented scandals among those in our governments.  And then there's Pizzagate, which may very well be the tip of an iceberg.  


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*walking into job interview*

 

Interviewer; So we ran your email address in our internet detecting software and it seems that you have signed into various sites that are categorized "Needs Therapy"

 

Me; oh, ok like that sort of stuff?

 

Interviewer; lets see here....Ah!  Efukt, Shadebase....

 

*points to third one*

 

What does this one say?

 

Me; Oh thats HolyguacamoleItsAHorseDickInMyAss-a-holey

 

Interviewer; yeah so...we cant hire you.

 

Actually the last part is wrong. The real statement is:

Dam, I missed one. Cool you're hired. 

:P

 

Seriously if people truly knew ... well admitted the shit that goes on the net that they view ... the above would be more common place than you'd expect. ;)
 


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In fact, they already have... :D

 

http://www.techworm....bi-new-law.html

 

That pertains to searching and hacking a computer (or if they can find it collect it)

So they want a very, very large collection of porn. Essentially that is what they will be getting with an occasional piece of info they might be interested in. Fuck that will be hard to find through all that porn they collected.

 

They already know my porn and other preferences most likely better than Google. Perhaps they could start giving me hints to materials that I might like Google does? After all they will now have much more access to content now. :P

 

 


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Government spooks in a meeting:

 

Spook 1: I'm bored, I've surfed almost all the shit in the Marianas Web but I can't find any good shit...any ideas?

 

Spook 2: same here...spying on people having sex using "telecommunications satellites" is getting old

 

Spook 3: hey I got an idea! why don't we use all of our resources literally trillions of taxpayers money to make up a new "internet surveillance" thingamajig where we can see and watch their fetishes in the deep web?

 

Spook 1: That is the most retarded and wastefully shittiest idea I have ever heard in my whole career ever since the Star Wars project and that Watergate affair...cool let's do it!!

 

Spook 2: I'm starting to get moist already...ooohh...seeing people getting off on weird shit is getting me off too...


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Government spooks in a meeting:

 

Spook 1: I'm bored, I've surfed almost all the shit in the Marianas Web but I can't find any good shit...any ideas?

 

Spook 2: same here...spying on people having sex using "telecommunications satellites" is getting old

 

Spook 3: hey I got an idea! why don't we use all of our resources literally trillions of taxpayers money to make up a new "internet surveillance" thingamajig where we can see and watch their fetishes in the deep web?

 

Spook 1: That is the most retarded and wastefully shittiest idea I have ever heard in my whole career ever since the Star Wars project and that Watergate affair...cool let's do it!!

 

Spook 2: I'm starting to get moist already...ooohh...seeing people getting off on weird shit is getting me off too...

 

This is the plot for Snowden 2 


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You don't read/watch the news, not interested in what's been going on in the world? Fine, but at least watch these guys. Or at least don't post stupid "tin foil hat" memes around.
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Keep in mind that we have two worlds, not just the one you are apparently living in, the one with total mass surveillance hidden behind top secrecy, fully legalized and enforced by what a certain Donald euphemistically calls 'The Swamp'. The other world gets snooped on too by the very same swampy tentacle. However, the usability of collected data there is heavily limited due to the lack of foreign law enforcement and thus focused on political blackmailing of the elites and industrial espionage, that includes international trade deals in progress to gain a decisive advantage. So, if I'd ride naked back to front over our land along the outer fence, the hair flowing in the wind, and the neighboring rancher's son sells tickets for the show to Japanese tourist bus loads, well, that kind of visual information on Japanese digital cams is of no strategic relevance for the masturbating nuts at Fort Fresh Meat, Holy Maryland. However, your fate over there doing the same might lead to other results for you, your family and your business. Which brings me to the kernel of the brute, the weak spot of state snooping and that's not located on the billion dollar technology front, notwithstanding the useful tips and tricks by Mr Snowden, just look at the state snooping budget and then at your piggy bank, but on a human level. How gets a snooper and his/her family treated in your world by the society, the neighborhood that is not employed by the very same company that is snooping for a suspect agency, that's the question. So, how do you treat them when they are living among you, pretending to be just like you, ordinary nice people? Think about it.


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Another reason why I'm considering actually becoming a politician, there are a lot of people in my country that cry out for more privacy and I can use the support of those people to start a political party... Still it's not the easiest job but I'm seriously considering it.


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~useless video~

You don't read/watch the news, not interested in what's been going on in the world? Fine, but at least watch these guys. Or at least don't post stupid "tin foil hat" memes around.

This world can burn, as far as I care.  Makes no difference to me.  It's the same old tired shit everyday.

 

And I can read and post whatever the hell I want.  If you don't like it, add me to the ignore list.  Simple as that.  Don't make it worse with some bullshit lecture.


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Wouldn't surprise that if someday soon they pass a law allowing them to inform your neighbors and workplace of such 'fetishes' without actually having to convict you of anything and the fact that it's cartoon or video game won't matter.  One day everyone within a mile of you gets a letter with your name, address and photo on it.  They'll call it a 'proactive' effort to protect children.  As far as I'm concerned if you have ANYTHING you don't want someone else to know about you had better do EVERYTHING you can to keep it from being known by someone else otherwise you may find yourself homeless and jobless and continuously harassed even though you have never really done anything wrong except for having fantasies society doesn't approve of.

 

In Britain and Germany, one can already receive a visit from the police if you post something deeming "hateful" by the government on social media.  And many businesses have either fired people for harboring "incorrect" political views or been the target of thugs activists looking to punish individuals for holding "wrong" beliefs.

 

Though I doubt we'll witness the state do a serious crackdown on pedophilia anytime soon as there are many well-documented scandals among those in our governments.  And then there's Pizzagate, which may very well be the tip of an iceberg.  

 

 

I read a news story regarding whether fake news won the US election for trump, "pizzagate" was one of the fake news stories mentioned and that it had been debunked by two US news papers, so i'm thinking it is very much not the tip of an iceberg
 


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But who determines what news is fake?


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But who determines what news is fake?

 

As there is no compulsion on the media to report fact rather than opinion, I guess truth is in the eye of the beholder


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Fake News are propaganda news, and propaganda is solely based on ideology that by definition vividly tries to create new facts out of hot political air, a to believed truth, surrogate truth for a life in an illusive parallel world beyond the tornado of confusion it creates in the real world. It's mass deception. The Wizard of Oz is a master in the fake news arts. You might follow Dorothy once more into the tornado when Kansas is going bye-bye...
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So you say pizzagate is fake because some news outlets debunked it? There are so many news agencies now trying to cover up Pizzagate calling it a fake and a hoax so vehemently. I wonder why? If you need Mainstream media to tell you whats real and fake then continue living on as a blind sheep without so much as doing your own research and be fed a spoonful of shit.

If people are curious enough and would like to make your own inference about whether pizzagate is real or fake, head on over to voat (reddit closed down the subreddit for pizzagate, surprise surprise) and read up on the stuff at hand so far. Pretty damning and shocking to say the least, or check out David Seaman on youtube, the guy is reputable who used to work for huffington post.


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I read a news story regarding whether fake news won the US election for trump, "pizzagate" was one of the fake news stories mentioned and that it had been debunked by two US news papers, so i'm thinking it is very much not the tip of an iceberg

 

lol "debunked"

 

I've read several articles claiming to do just that, and all they actually do is summarize key claims without putting an effort in refuting them and the legitimate evidence that gives credulence to those claims.  

 

Regardless, "fake news" is a push by several major news outlets to turn attention away from their corruption and incompetence.


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In fact, they already have... :D

 

http://www.techworm....bi-new-law.html

 

LOL... yeah, the FBI now has jurisdiction over every computer in the world.  So watch out, Chinese hackers, the FBI is coming for you!

 

Good luck with that.  ;)


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