The new internet surveillance

[Guest Flobalob]

 "It seems rather a stretch to me to go from government agencies having access to browsing history (sites visited) to your potential employer being able to access a government database" 

 

-it's not a stretch at all. The whole purpose of these new laws is to censor the internet and ban anonymous websurfing completely on a global scale.

 

 

[Slorm]

Personally, I'm not that worried by the spooks, even with a VPN if they're really interested in you it won't help much. They can't make VPN's illegal in any case as most businesses rely on them and anyone that uses a public WiFi is stupid if they don't, as most transmit in plain text.

 

What worries me more is politicians looking for a "bung" for their party from the likes of Google and start selling the info they collect.

[pinky6225]

 "It seems rather a stretch to me to go from government agencies having access to browsing history (sites visited) to your potential employer being able to access a government database" 

 

-it's not a stretch at all. The whole purpose of these new laws is to censor the internet and ban anonymous websurfing completely on a global scale.

 

uh huh, as you didnt really specify perhaps you could say what "new internet laws" you are actually referring to? (as the "snooping charter" which forces ISP's to keep browsing history (sites visited only) for one year has been passed in the UK i'm going to assume something like that)

 

Outside of countries that already rigidly control access to the internet, i highly doubt the relevant governments are going to piss off the business world by preventing people from using VPN's to access corporate networks so since we have a legitimate usage of VPN's banning them is not really viable so exactly how are they going to enforce it? how are they going to protect acess to "the database"? how are they going to stop everybody switching to TOR based browsers? and finally who do you think will really give a shit?

 

Peeps look at porn and all other manner of weird shit, as long as you don't do it in the office, speaking as an employer, i really couldn't give a .....

 

[Blackhearted]

Wonday they'll have germ sized robots that crawl around in your brain monitoring every thought you have whether conscious or not.  Then they'll improve those robots so they can make you think the way they want you to think.

[Blackhearted]

Bruh this has been going on for years.

 

Use Tor and learn to encrypt your shit if you truly are worried about governments learning of your lolitrap fetish.

 

Wouldn't surprise that if someday soon they pass a law allowing them to inform your neighbors and workplace of such 'fetishes' without actually having to convict you of anything and the fact that it's cartoon or video game won't matter.  One day everyone within a mile of you gets a letter with your name, address and photo on it.  They'll call it a 'proactive' effort to protect children.  As far as I'm concerned if you have ANYTHING you don't want someone else to know about you had better do EVERYTHING you can to keep it from being known by someone else otherwise you may find yourself homeless and jobless and continuously harassed even though you have never really done anything wrong except for having fantasies society doesn't approve of.

[Jazzman]

 "It seems rather a stretch to me to go from government agencies having access to browsing history (sites visited) to your potential employer being able to access a government database" 

 

-it's not a stretch at all. The whole purpose of these new laws is to censor the internet and ban anonymous websurfing completely on a global scale.

 

To 'ban anonymous websurfing completely on a global scale' one must take over the planet first and thus all cable routes and hubs not under the own control as of now. Still busy with that mission impossible, anybody? Well, some people in charge will probably never learn, already caught up in their own cobweb of lies they repeat their arrogant mistakes over and over again like predictable, preprogrammed bots for that which must not cannot be. And that's why they fail. Always.

[Hamguy31]

I don't know if it has been discussed yet but how are the new internet surveillance laws going to affect sites like LL where virtually everyone uses an alias? Governments are going to be spying on us and recording all our browsing history as from next year which lots of local agencies will have access to. What do we do, delete our accounts or what?    Just curious.

Is this from britain or something i've never heard such a thing. what a fascist country, I guess they deserve it. they even let some royal fat pig and her family take tax money for free.

[Kakabishan]

Flobalob has now been taken in by CIA officials and silenced in order to prevent him from further spreading the new surveillance laws.

[pinky6225]

 

I don't know if it has been discussed yet but how are the new internet surveillance laws going to affect sites like LL where virtually everyone uses an alias? Governments are going to be spying on us and recording all our browsing history as from next year which lots of local agencies will have access to. What do we do, delete our accounts or what?    Just curious.

Is this from britain or something i've never heard such a thing. what a fascist country, I guess they deserve it. they even let some royal fat pig and her family take tax money for free.

 

 

Google Investigatory Powers Bill as that was the one i was referring to as to the OP dunno he never mentioned it but lets face it if half of what snowden has been saying is even half true other governments have been doing far more than that bill allows anyway

[D_ManXX2]

Well in that case lets hope agency kept that data correctly from hillary e-mail scandal. I would like to know what she was doing online too.

[flobalob]

Flobalob has now been taken in by CIA officials and silenced in order to prevent him from further spreading the new surveillance laws.

 

Nah, I'm still here, I deleted my account and recreated it to just see what would be left behind on the site. 

[arpaschad]

well then enjoy looking over my browsing history spooks...of course its important to know what other people's smut is...

[Darkpig]

You mean the government is tracking my every movement including my interests and hobbies? That shit turns me on *unzips pants*

[Jazzman]

Gosh, they don't track you over there, hardly any of you. Already today they're up to shit creek w/o a paddle in a flood of collected data and can't even track a single needle with explosive belt in the haystack. They just want to give you the creeps so that you do anything they say. They want you to obey, turning you into mental slaves in a prison for the mind, don't you see? Guess not, not all of you.

[Veniat]

Honestly I'm not scared of any new US surveillance laws, what government agencies would be doing unannounced beyond public scrutiny is far more terrifying.  You give a group of people near absolute power in the name of security then give them ability to make certain elements of their actions classified and it all pretty much comes crumbling down to a complete level of depravity.  

 

All it takes is a small group of corrupt, or well meaning, idiots in a high position of authority to hide most of it; at least in my opinion.

[Guest]

Strange, seems governments always willing to attribute more effort to forbid talking about crime instead of really solving the crimes...Like UN guys who tried so hard to ban Japanese rape porn instead of actually helping.

[Cema]

You know that these officials creating these surveillance laws have for some of them way darker fetishes than anyone here? Like pedophilia, webcam murder, satanism ...

 

They will allow for some spying but going too far would be a no no because their ugly little secrets would be exposed.

[Blackhearted]

You know that these officials creating these surveillance laws have for some of them way darker fetishes than anyone here? Like pedophilia, webcam murder, satanism ...

 

They will allow for some spying but going too far would be a no no because their ugly little secrets would be exposed.

 

 

It's all for collecting embarrassing shit they can use as leverage to encourage people with some status to do what they want them to, or to shut up people who rock the boat too much.  Ordinary people with a kinky fetish don't have to worry so long as they don't advertise.  Personally I hope they do bust more pedophiles and child pornographers but I don't think all that much will change.  Every time I hear about the snuff shit I want to fucking throw up.  It's really disturbing to think about the crap people are doing to other people out there like sexual slavery and exploitation.

[Guest]

 

Wouldn't surprise that if someday soon they pass a law allowing them to inform your neighbors and workplace of such 'fetishes' without actually having to convict you of anything and the fact that it's cartoon or video game won't matter.  One day everyone within a mile of you gets a letter with your name, address and photo on it.  They'll call it a 'proactive' effort to protect children.  As far as I'm concerned if you have ANYTHING you don't want someone else to know about you had better do EVERYTHING you can to keep it from being known by someone else otherwise you may find yourself homeless and jobless and continuously harassed even though you have never really done anything wrong except for having fantasies society doesn't approve of.

 

In Britain and Germany, one can already receive a visit from the police if you post something deeming "hateful" by the government on social media.  And many businesses have either fired people for harboring "incorrect" political views or been the target of thugs activists looking to punish individuals for holding "wrong" beliefs.

 

Though I doubt we'll witness the state do a serious crackdown on pedophilia anytime soon as there are many well-documented scandals among those in our governments.  And then there's Pizzagate, which may very well be the tip of an iceberg.  

[RitualClarity]

*walking into job interview*

 

Interviewer; So we ran your email address in our internet detecting software and it seems that you have signed into various sites that are categorized "Needs Therapy"

 

Me; oh, ok like that sort of stuff?

 

Interviewer; lets see here....Ah!  Efukt, Shadebase....

 

*points to third one*

 

What does this one say?

 

Me; Oh thats HolyguacamoleItsAHorseDickInMyAss-a-holey

 

Interviewer; yeah so...we cant hire you.

 

Actually the last part is wrong. The real statement is:

Dam, I missed one. Cool you're hired. 

 

Seriously if people truly knew ... well admitted the shit that goes on the net that they view ... the above would be more common place than you'd expect.

 

[RitualClarity]

In fact, they already have...

 

http://www.techworm.net/2016/05/tor-vpn-users-labeled-criminals-hacked-spied-fbi-new-law.html

 

That pertains to searching and hacking a computer (or if they can find it collect it)

So they want a very, very large collection of porn. Essentially that is what they will be getting with an occasional piece of info they might be interested in. Fuck that will be hard to find through all that porn they collected.

 

They already know my porn and other preferences most likely better than Google. Perhaps they could start giving me hints to materials that I might like Google does? After all they will now have much more access to content now.

 

 

[arpaschad]

Government spooks in a meeting:

 

Spook 1: I'm bored, I've surfed almost all the shit in the Marianas Web but I can't find any good shit...any ideas?

 

Spook 2: same here...spying on people having sex using "telecommunications satellites" is getting old

 

Spook 3: hey I got an idea! why don't we use all of our resources literally trillions of taxpayers money to make up a new "internet surveillance" thingamajig where we can see and watch their fetishes in the deep web?

 

Spook 1: That is the most retarded and wastefully shittiest idea I have ever heard in my whole career ever since the Star Wars project and that Watergate affair...cool let's do it!!

 

Spook 2: I'm starting to get moist already...ooohh...seeing people getting off on weird shit is getting me off too...

[Ashkandii]

Government spooks in a meeting:

 

Spook 1: I'm bored, I've surfed almost all the shit in the Marianas Web but I can't find any good shit...any ideas?

 

Spook 2: same here...spying on people having sex using "telecommunications satellites" is getting old

 

Spook 3: hey I got an idea! why don't we use all of our resources literally trillions of taxpayers money to make up a new "internet surveillance" thingamajig where we can see and watch their fetishes in the deep web?

 

Spook 1: That is the most retarded and wastefully shittiest idea I have ever heard in my whole career ever since the Star Wars project and that Watergate affair...cool let's do it!!

 

Spook 2: I'm starting to get moist already...ooohh...seeing people getting off on weird shit is getting me off too...

 

This is the plot for Snowden 2 

[bjornk]

 

You don't read/watch the news, not interested in what's been going on in the world? Fine, but at least watch these guys. Or at least don't post stupid "tin foil hat" memes around.

[Jazzman]

Keep in mind that we have two worlds, not just the one you are apparently living in, the one with total mass surveillance hidden behind top secrecy, fully legalized and enforced by what a certain Donald euphemistically calls 'The Swamp'. The other world gets snooped on too by the very same swampy tentacle. However, the usability of collected data there is heavily limited due to the lack of foreign law enforcement and thus focused on political blackmailing of the elites and industrial espionage, that includes international trade deals in progress to gain a decisive advantage. So, if I'd ride naked back to front over our land along the outer fence, the hair flowing in the wind, and the neighboring rancher's son sells tickets for the show to Japanese tourist bus loads, well, that kind of visual information on Japanese digital cams is of no strategic relevance for the masturbating nuts at Fort Fresh Meat, Holy Maryland. However, your fate over there doing the same might lead to other results for you, your family and your business. Which brings me to the kernel of the brute, the weak spot of state snooping and that's not located on the billion dollar technology front, notwithstanding the useful tips and tricks by Mr Snowden, just look at the state snooping budget and then at your piggy bank, but on a human level. How gets a snooper and his/her family treated in your world by the society, the neighborhood that is not employed by the very same company that is snooping for a suspect agency, that's the question. So, how do you treat them when they are living among you, pretending to be just like you, ordinary nice people? Think about it.