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my game keeps crashin on startup here is my load order if anyone can find the problem let me know

 

 

  0  0 Skyrim.esm
  1  1 Update.esm
  2  2 Dawnguard.esm
  3  3 HearthFires.esm
  4  4 Dragonborn.esm
  5  5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6 SexLab.esm
  7  7 SexLabAroused.esm
  8  8 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
  9  9 CreatureFramework.esm
 10  a RaceCompatibility.esm
 11  b hdtHighHeel.esm
 12  c Heels Sound.esm
 13  d BeeingFemale.esm
 14  e DreadPrison.esm
 15  f Campfire.esm
 16 10 ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 17 11 Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 18 12 Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 19 13 Inn Girls Resources.esm
 20 14 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
 21 15 ScocLB.esm
 22 16 dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm
 23 17 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 24 18 DeviousFramework.esm
 25 19 TouringCarriages.esp
 26 1a RingsofOP.esp
 27 1b Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
 28 1c Immersive Jewelry.esp
 29 1d Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
 30 1e brat_overstocked_merchants_sp0.esp
 31 1f cheat ring.esp
 32 20 flanseyesforskrim.esp
 33 21 jrs_alteredvanillahoods.esp
 34 22 lockpickpro.esp
 35 23 skillfreedom.esp
 36 24 pickpocket redesigned.esp
 37 25 unburden.esp
 38 26 wa ribbon.esp
 39 27 SkyUI.esp
 40 28 KS Hairdo's.esp
 41 29 SD Cages.esp
 42 2a Immersive Wenches.esp
 43 2b SexLab_Solutions.esp
 44 2c Shout Like a Virgin.esp
 45 2d hydra_slavegirls.esp
 46 2e Captured Dreams.esp
 47 2f AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
 48 30 Point The Way.esp
 49 31 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
 50 32 DwarvenObjectsRecipes.esp
 51 33 Convertible Azura's Star.esp
 52 34 Craftable Artifacts.esp
 53 35 FNIS.esp
 54 36 FNIS_PCEA2.esp
 55 37 FNISSexyMove.esp
 56 38 More Vanilla Horses.esp
 57 39 Atlas Legendary.esp
 58 3a SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp
 59 3b sanguinesDebauchery.esp
 60 3c Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
 61 3d DeviousRegulations.esp
 62 3e Actualize Apparel.esp
 63 3f notalkdetection.esp
 64 40 IndividualizedShoutCooldowns.esp
 65 41 GoOnAhead.esp
 66 42 DifficultArchery_200 auto.esp
 67 43 Pincushion - MoreArrows.esp
 68 44 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 69 45 SimpleSlavery.esp
 70 46 s23_MCFE+CU.esp
 71 47 WeightlessOreIngotsPeltsGems.esp
 72 48 More Craftables.esp
 73 49 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 74 4a Devious Cidhna.esp
 75 4b MilkModNEW.esp
 76 4c MilkMod_MilkPumpsBasicB.esp
 77 4d SexLab_Dialogues.esp
 78 4e SL99Exchanger.esp
 79 4f S_L_U_T_S.esp
 80 50 Deviously Enslaved.esp
 81 51 SOS - Shop.esp
 82 52 DeviousMagic.esp
 83 53 Dwemer Longrifle.esp
 84 54 Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp
 85 55 OhmesRaht.esp
 86 56 Alchemy Tomes.esp
 87 57 Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
 88 58 Scholar's Trail.esp
 89 59 travelerscoveredwagon.esp
 90 5a Crossbow Pack.esp
 91 5b gifts of akatosh.esp
 92 5c SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
 93 5d RelationshipDialougeSystem.esp
 94 5e DreadPrisonAddon01.esp
 95 5f j3x-autocrossbows.esp
 96 60 restoration_spell cleanse.esp
 97 61 craftingsupples_aio_all.esp
 98 62 Remove Your.esp
 99 63 Book Of Life.esp
100 64 Riding Styles.esp
101 65 instant merchant.esp
102 66 ringofinvisibility.esp
103 67 Nine_Divines_Amulet_1.1.esp
104 68 DreadPrisonAddon02.esp
105 69 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
106 6a AmuletMerchant.esp
107 6b The Business of the Fourth Era.esp
108 6c AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp
109 6d AFT_ManagedFollowerBoost.esp
110 6e ArrowRecoverySystemOverhaul.esp
111 6f ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
112 70 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp
113 71 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp
114 72 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
115 73 MainMenu.esp
116 74 SkyCompleteLegendary.esp
117 75 UIExtensions.esp
118 76 Naked Potema.esp
119 77 ArrowsOfMight1.2.esp
120 78 DeviouslyTraining.esp
121 79 bound arrows.esp
122 7a Underwater Swimming.esp
123 7b Steel Bolts For All.esp
124 7c Bolts For Weapon Vendors.esp
125 7d JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
126 7e Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp
127 7f SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
128 80 RaceMenu.esp
129 81 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
130 82 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
131 83 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
132 84 WeightlessScrolls.esp
133 85 WeightlessPotions.esp
134 86 WeightlessFood.esp
135 87 WeightlessDwemerSmeltables.esp
136 88 WeightlessDragonClaws.esp
137 89 WeightlessDragonBones.esp
138 8a WeightlessCraftedPotions.esp
139 8b WeightlessAlchemyIngredients.esp
140 8c XPMSE.esp
141 8d SOSRaceMenu.esp
142 8e MoreNastyCritters.esp
143 8f SexLabWerewolves.esp
144 90 SexLabWerewolvesMB.esp
145 91 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
146 92 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
147 93 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
148 94 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
149 95 HDT Havok Object.esp
150 96 AddItemMenu.esp
151 97 Jennifer.esp
152 98 12FemaleBrows.esp
153 99 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
154 9a HDTTailsEquipable.esp
155 9b VS Paige Hood.esp
156 9c Kaw's Claws.esp
157 9d CharacterMakingExtender.esp
158 9e EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
159 9f Skyrim Sizes.esp
160 a0 SkyrimSizesLore.esp
161 a1 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
162 a2 tbdrace.esp
163 a3 Bondage Straps.esp
164 a4 HDT Piercingsets.esp
165 a5 XiNafay - Shoes.esp
166 a6 Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
167 a7 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
168 a8 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
169 a9 Deadly Wenches.esp
170 aa Armbinders_With_Hands.esp
171 ab BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp
172 ac BFAP v1.3.esp
173 ad Blush When Aroused.esp
174 ae wristbinder.esp
175 af WetFunction.esp
176 b0 Jugs.esp
177 b1 dc-mana-tanks-000.esp
178 b2 DibellanDefender.esp
179 b3 Horgasm.esp
180 b4 Devious Punishment Equipment.esp
181 b5 DeviouslyHelpless.esp
182 b6 SWT1.2.esp
183 b7 TTT_ArousedNips.esp
184 b8 SerialStrip.esp
185 b9 SerialStripper.esp
186 ba SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
187 bb dc-untamed-000.esp
188 bc Luxury Collection.esp
189 bd Animated Fairy Wings.esp
190 be tentacleArmor.esp
191 bf Enchanted Devious Devices.esp
192 c0 ScoclbQuestSexlab.esp
193 c1 JSW_GoldMaster.esp
194 c2 TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp
195 c3 Extended Slider Colors.esp
196 c4 SRfreckles.esp
197 c5 SLAnimLoader.esp
198 c6 GPSRing.esp
199 c7 arousing_weather_plugin.esp
200 c8 arousing_weather_climates_of_tamriel.esp
201 c9 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
202 ca SlaveTats.esp
203 cb NibblesAnimObjects.esp
204 cc FtM_3 - CCOR.esp
205 cd SL01AmuletsSkyrimDGDB_Outfit_CCOR.esp
206 ce ExtraPocket.esp
207 cf DW.esp
208 d0 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
209 d1 PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
210 d2 Devious Devices - Equip.esp
211 d3 EggFactory.esp
212 d4 spectralhorse.esp
213 d5 PetCollar.esp
214 d6 sr_FillHerUp.esp
215 d7 Ultimate Leveling Potion.esp
216 d8 impregnation plug.esp
217 d9 yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp
218 da Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
219 db ExtendedStay.esp
220 dc ExtendedStay - Campfire Add-On.esp
221 dd Apropos.esp
222 de DietBasedButt.esp
223 df EstrusChaurus.esp
224 e0 Hydra Devious Devices Patch.esp
225 e1 dcc-dm2.esp
226 e2 DfwSupport.esp
227 e3 MilkModNEW CF.esp
228 e4 MilkModNEW HF.esp
229 e5 MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp
230 e6 DreadPrisonMilkingFarm.esp
231 e7 GoldenVendors.esp
232 e8 SGS.esp
233 e9 Sneak Tools.esp
234 ea Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
235 eb Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
236 ec SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
237 ed Devious Deviants.esp
238 ee _001_StashSacks.esp
239 ef SexistGuards.esp
240 f0 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
 
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240 plugins isn't bad.  I have 253 plugins exactly with 100 of them merged together here and there.  Game works fine.  

First thing's first, since you didn't mention it:  have you used TESVEdit to find any conflicting mods yet?  Normally TESVEdit or LOOT can identify the problem.  Actually, LOOT has never failed to identify a mod/plugin conflict for me --- ever.  And I have a lot of mods as I've already stated.  Heck, people give Nexus Mod Manager a bad rep but I noticed that it also identifies mod/plugin conflicts.  Lol.

If none of these options work, a very simple solution that most people don't think of is to go to your downloaded mods folder and arrange them by date and uninstall the most recently installed mods until the process of elimination solves the problem for you.  

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I have 254 active plugins and 150 Mods merged and my game run like butter. I do not think your problem is the amount of mods, I'm not an expert girl in this things but I want to help ... so the only occasions in which Skyrim gives me CTD at startup it is when Loot mark in red color an error in the mod that causes the CTD.

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I have 254 active plugins and 150 Mods merged and my game run like butter. I do not think your problem is the amount of mods, I'm not an expert girl in this things but I want to help ... so the only occasions in which Skyrim gives me CTD at startup it is when Loot mark in red color an error in the mod that causes the CTD.

Nice. I wish there were more insane modders like us. I would love to see pictures of your game. Please share!

 

Yours too, Missfucksalot, if we can get your game running again. Huh... I just noticed your name is kind of... different.

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Loot found conflicts and I've fixed them still doesn't work and hasn't worked for over a month so too many mods to go back and check

Those conflicts that LOOT found... how did you fix them and what mods were they? Please provide more descriptive info so we can help you. What I would've done is disabled those conflicting mods completely and then try to reload the game to successfully bootup first.

When looking through your mod installation history, logic would dictate that it would mostly be mods that change or add scripts that will be the mods causing your problem. Ignore armor mods, weapon mods, and texture mods. I'm sure this will narrow down the culprit mod significantly. A month is not too long of a time period.

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Startup crash is due to a missing master in the vast majority of cases. One of your mods has at least one requirement you don't meet.

 

Also, you really don't want to install both RaceMenu and Enhanced Character Edit at the same time. Drop one, preferably ECE.

 

Edit: Wait, your wording is a bit vague so for confirmation. Do you crash at the Skyrim logo (startup) or when you load a save? If it's the latter, it's probably due to FNIS.

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Hey, I used to crash a lot for no discernable reason. No conflicts, all my mods were ok, but I did happen to have a gorillion mods like you... I went in Documents\my games\Skyrim and added fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=750.0 below [Papyrus].

No more crashes. You might have more script intensive mods, no real idea there, so if that doesn't help turn it up to 1000. It seems to increase the load time and gives mods more time to set themselves up.

Also try running Crash Fixes with its special memory allocation.

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Loot found conflicts and I've fixed them still doesn't work and hasn't worked for over a month so too many mods to go back and check

Correction loot found missing requirements not conflicts

 

Those conflicts that LOOT found... how did you fix them and what mods were they? Please provide more descriptive info so we can help you. What I would've done is disabled those conflicting mods completely and then try to reload the game to successfully bootup first.

When looking through your mod installation history, logic would dictate that it would mostly be mods that change or add scripts that will be the mods causing your problem. Ignore armor mods, weapon mods, and texture mods. I'm sure this will narrow down the culprit mod significantly. A month is not too long of a time period.

  

Startup crash is due to a missing master in the vast majority of cases. One of your mods has at least one requirement you don't meet.

 

Also, you really don't want to install both RaceMenu and Enhanced Character Edit at the same time. Drop one, preferably ECE.

 

Edit: Wait, your wording is a bit vague so for confirmation. Do you crash at the Skyrim logo (startup) or when you load a save? If it's the latter, it's probably due to FNIS.

I crash upon loading my saves

Hey, I used to crash a lot for no discernable reason. No conflicts, all my mods were ok, but I did happen to have a gorillion mods like you... I went in Documents\my games\Skyrim and added fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=750.0 below [Papyrus].

 

No more crashes. You might have more script intensive mods, no real idea there, so if that doesn't help turn it up to 1000. It seems to increase the load time and gives mods more time to set themselves up.

 

Also try running Crash Fixes with its special memory allocation.

What exactly is added and how I can't really understand that bit

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I crash upon loading my saves

 

Lots of reasons this could happen but even after solving all conflicts manually with Tes5Edit this occasionally happens to me if I go over a certain number of installed animations. According to fore there isn't anything that can be done about that and the actual threshold varies depending of your mod setup and hardware.

 

Workaround:

 

- Create a save immediately after creating your character (preferably with an alternate start mod).

- Keep that save and don't ever overwrite it.

- When you start Skyrim, load that save first, and then load the one you actually want to play with.

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I have 254 active plugins and 150 Mods merged and my game run like butter. I do not think your problem is the amount of mods, I'm not an expert girl in this things but I want to help ... so the only occasions in which Skyrim gives me CTD at startup it is when Loot mark in red color an error in the mod that causes the CTD.

Nice. I wish there were more insane modders like us. I would love to see pictures of your game. Please share!

 

Yours too, Missfucksalot, if we can get your game running again. Huh... I just noticed your name is kind of... different.

Yeah kinda created the name on a drunken dare probably gonna try to change it even if I lose the bet
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What meme supreme meant was an entry in your Skyrim.ini. it should look like this, without the comments behind <-

 

[Papyrus]

fUpdateBudgetMS=2 <- more time for scripts. Less performance, better stability. Default is 1.2 and afaik it should be increased in .4 steps.

fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=2 <-similar

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2500.0  <-more time to load stuff during loading screens. Default is 500. 2500MS means 2.5 seconds... still fine for me. :)

iMinMemoryPageSize=128 <- i admit, i don't really remember what the whoöe memory stuff exactly was for. something about papyrus (=script) memory.

iMaxMemoryPageSize=768

iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=153600

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What meme supreme meant was an entry in your Skyrim.ini. it should look like this, without the comments behind <-

 

[Papyrus]

fUpdateBudgetMS=2 <- more time for scripts. Less performance, better stability. Default is 1.2 and afaik it should be increased in .4 steps.

fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=2 <-similar

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2500.0 <-more time to load stuff during loading screens. Default is 500. 2500MS means 2.5 seconds... still fine for me. :)

iMinMemoryPageSize=128 <- i admit, i don't really remember what the whoöe memory stuff exactly was for. something about papyrus (=script) memory.

iMaxMemoryPageSize=768

iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=153600

Under papyrus I only see the one that says fpostloadupdatetimems and there are only 4 lines under papyrus and then it goes straight to water without a space between the lines am I missing something
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What meme supreme meant was an entry in your Skyrim.ini. it should look like this, without the comments behind <-

 

[Papyrus]

fUpdateBudgetMS=2 <- more time for scripts. Less performance, better stability. Default is 1.2 and afaik it should be increased in .4 steps.

fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=2 <-similar

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2500.0 <-more time to load stuff during loading screens. Default is 500. 2500MS means 2.5 seconds... still fine for me. :)

iMinMemoryPageSize=128 <- i admit, i don't really remember what the whoöe memory stuff exactly was for. something about papyrus (=script) memory.

iMaxMemoryPageSize=768

iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=153600

Under papyrus I only see the one that says fpostloadupdatetimems and there are only 4 lines under papyrus and then it goes straight to water without a space between the lines am I missing something

 

Afaik there is no Papysrus section in the Skyrim.ini by default, but it seems you already did something. :)

You need to add the entries you want manually, for default values you can also just leave them. I just added the default values to give you a clue. :)

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I have 254 active plugins and 150 Mods merged and my game run like butter. I do not think your problem is the amount of mods, I'm not an expert girl in this things but I want to help ... so the only occasions in which Skyrim gives me CTD at startup it is when Loot mark in red color an error in the mod that causes the CTD.

Nice. I wish there were more insane modders like us. I would love to see pictures of your game. Please share!

 

Yours too, Missfucksalot, if we can get your game running again. Huh... I just noticed your name is kind of... different.

 

 

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Why do you want to see images of my game? It's crazy, I've turned Skyrim into a Femdom planet. Crazy things happen in my game and women always win ... with great cruelty most of the time.  :P  

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I have 254 active plugins and 150 Mods merged and my game run like butter. I do not think your problem is the amount of mods, I'm not an expert girl in this things but I want to help ... so the only occasions in which Skyrim gives me CTD at startup it is when Loot mark in red color an error in the mod that causes the CTD.

Nice. I wish there were more insane modders like us. I would love to see pictures of your game. Please share!

 

Yours too, Missfucksalot, if we can get your game running again. Huh... I just noticed your name is kind of... different.

 

 

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Why do you want to see images of my game? It's crazy, I've turned Skyrim into a Femdom planet. Crazy things happen in my game and women always win ... with great cruelty most of the time.  :P  

 

really using what mods

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I have 254 active plugins and 150 Mods merged and my game run like butter. I do not think your problem is the amount of mods, I'm not an expert girl in this things but I want to help ... so the only occasions in which Skyrim gives me CTD at startup it is when Loot mark in red color an error in the mod that causes the CTD.

Nice. I wish there were more insane modders like us. I would love to see pictures of your game. Please share!

 

Yours too, Missfucksalot, if we can get your game running again. Huh... I just noticed your name is kind of... different.

 

 

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Why do you want to see images of my game? It's crazy, I've turned Skyrim into a Femdom planet. Crazy things happen in my game and women always win ... with great cruelty most of the time.  :P  

 

really using what mods

 

LMAO!  That just makes it even more interesting.  Like "what the hell?" interesting.

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Crashing on loading a save is normal. At least if you just fired up the game again.

Even more so as nowadays four or more hundred animations get loaded into Sexlab.

 

It's not normal if you already successfully loaded a game before though. Then there shouldn't be crashes on loading another one. If it still crashes then it could also indicate a load order issue.

You probably let Loot handle your load order? Don't do that. Let Loot do the first raw sorting and then get the plugin load order right, first the internal one in mods with more than one esp (readme - Loot always screws up the recommended More Nasty Critters load order for example) and then between mods.

What's right? Beats me, but I usually look for mod readmes and I change Loot's presorting if a modder can give me a reason why he claims that his mod should load last (like in case of Sexlab Solutions, clear statements on which mod conflicts it solves if I load that one last) other than "because else it can break". Duh! They all can if they contain scripts or are sophisticated enough. ^^

I also put script-heavy mods near the end of the load order. Especially most things tied to Sexlab.

Not always though. Prison Overhaul gets low priority for example because I don't really care if it works 100%, if it doesn't then the mod has enough tools in its MCM menu to fix a lot of issues. So far it seems to work though.

But installing too many different script-heavy mods will reduce overall stability of course. Your load order is filled to the brim with them. So maybe get rid of some?

 

Anyway, are you even sure that there is something wrong?

 

The normal way to load a savegame with SL 1.62 and hundreds of animations is to install Live Another Life, start a new game, save that and keep it.

And then load that fresh savegame and if it worked then just load the save you really wanted to. Do that every time you restart Skyrim.

Oh, I see, Shiratama already beat me to it a week ago.  :P

 

Changing papyrus settings or Crash Fixes and other stability mods don't do jack shit to resolve this issue btw.

I'd still recommend using Crash Fixes.

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