Slaverun Reloaded (03-June-2018)

[WaxenFigure]

7 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

That is what I said, in slightly different words perhaps - I specifically addressed the issue of bulk-loading dialog into the CK, and how it's possible (probably) to do it with TES5Edit scripting. As of now, I can't find a script already written that is designed for export and re-import of dialog for TES5Edit.

 

There's no question that trying to edit all the dialog, simply to clean up typos or odd word usage would be a monumental effort in the CK.

 

And as stated by others, nobody really expects Kenjoka to change what he's doing. He's got his own plans. This is just spitballing by people who would (mostly) rather play Skyrim than grind the CK. Of course I'm working on a mod, and some armors, but I'm in no rush. Everyone on LL is making a mod right? It's like Hollywood, where everyone's an actor waiting for that big break, or pitching a movie, they just happen to be working at Starbucks in the meantime.

 

Exporting and reimporting every bit of dialog would be a huge chore anyway, better to use TES5EDIT to simply create a new patch mod and copy a single conversation that you'd like to rewrite into the patch, fix that conversation in the patch and then pick another, copy it to the patch and so on. 

 

Test those changed conversations in game and if they work properly you can forward the patch to Kenjoka who can then decide to accept or reject those changes.

 

If Kenjoka likes the changes it's quite easy to copy those changes from the patch into the mod in TES5EDIT. If Kenjoka doesn't like the changes you can keep the patch and still have your own custom patch to use in your own games.

 

I would recommend NOT changing a lot of conversations at once, keep the load light both for yourself and for Kejoka who will have to test them even if you tested them first. 

 

 

[NicoleDragoness]

I'm trying Slaverun 3 Alpha2 patch c.

- Free "normal" woman (not the strongest one eeven if I'm at Level 70 and my Fus-Ro-Dah shout can push Bellamy from Whiterun to Markarth and disintegrate him, doh!).

- Testmode enabled.

- Setting like HardMod (almost), with Enforcer enabled (arousal 40 for slaves and 60 for free -default distance - 1.00 ratio - 20 sec - Infinite action per cycle).

 

Problem:

1. Even there are a lot of males with arousal over 70 this is what happens ALWAYS:

   Male is horny and wants to fuck a slave -> Wants to fuck the Slave XXXX, "But this pussy is occupied" ??? --- but this slave is doing nothing related to sex! WTF?

   or

   Male is horny wants to fuck a slave or a free -> wants to fuck free YYYYY, "But this pussy is occupied" (AGAIN?? She is doing nothing, again!)

And of course no sex happens.

 

2. About nudity: there are some slot in the list and they are unequipped. Right. But I have a lot of other slots that are not in the list and the enforcer unequips them too. WHY?

    I wish to still wear at least my Boots, Gauntlets and Pauldrons. And I have to manually equip them every time.

[NicoleDragoness]

Sorry, forgot to ask:

 

As free woman can I start the Colosseum quest and Arena fights anyway after completed the enslavement of whole Skyrim?

I read a lot of posts here but I'm not sure I understood well.

[galgat]

41 minutes ago, NicoleDragoness said:

Sorry, forgot to ask:

 

As free woman can I start the Colosseum quest and Arena fights anyway after completed the enslavement of whole Skyrim?

I read a lot of posts here but I'm not sure I understood well.

  Yes with the last ESP update which needs the whole install from the other Alpha.

 

You have to get past Riften, Cheat to get there or what ever, then look for and extra dialogue in the extra jobs dialogue, something like "is there anything else I could"  Also you have to have done at least 5 of the little dirty tasks Pike give you.

 

you know screw this person screw that one, be used as a toilet by the military, and what not.

 

Oh! I by the way other than, a couple of typo's here, and there I think all the Dialogue is wonderful, so I am not complaining about the dialogue at all. I like it very much, It is so Fansadoc like, although i am not a big fan of Fansadox snuff, and amputation, and blood stuff, they do depict, a pretty near accurate fantasy brutality thing.

 

   but Kenjoka make's up for that a lot in the MCM, and I use the the CK to change anything I want [Personally]. 

[NicoleDragoness]

Thank you, galgat.

[Kenjoka]

6 hours ago, kkk kkk kkk said:

 

I also do not seem to have a conversation option to redeem freedom.

You are playing the latest version?

The dialogue with Pike is only active when the mainquest is at stage 2000,3000,4000,5000,6000,7000,8000,9000,10000 and when the wedding quest is not running

The topic is "Slave Master, there is someone who wants to buy me... from you."

17 hours ago, Imatterial said:

I'm playing through Alpha2c as a female slaver but I can't get the arena events to trigger, other than serving spectators in the stands. With the arena fights I can get to Caesar asking me who I'd like to fight and saying there are three choices but then my only possible response is 'I don't like any of those" which ends the conversation. I tried switching off the options to select fight mode/opponents but again it just ends the conversation without anything happening.

 

I've got the Morthal Jarl to agree to slavery and everything is built. I have the quests to recruit more gladiators/beasts but can't do them because neither of the NPCs will talk to me.

 

Have I bugged my game or am I missing something obvious?

In alpha you need to enable the cheat mode to finish both quests to get more animals and more gladiators.

Without that you won't have any opponents/partners for the arena

20 hours ago, Strathi123 said:

Works great so far but when the "Main" Colosseum is build and I talked to Mundus he send me to the stables to catch somebody ( you know who :-) ) but when I talk to him he only greets me and the dialogue window disapears. How can I go further in the questline?

ok, I think there is realy a bug and there is no workaround as you can't skip or setstage it. I think I will have to make a fix for this...

[Imatterial]

Thanks for the reply Kenjoka, I've been looking forward to trying the arena fights. I haven't played this mod since you first started expanding it and it's amazing how far you've taken it, this is DLC scale. Great job!

[conconcon]

This and Captured dreams are my favorite mods on here, keep up the great work. Also im guessing the side quest thing with finn the follower is unfinished cause we keep repeating the same dialouge after he says "i was thinking about something pike told me"

[NicoleDragoness]

Just a note:

 

I think that the nudity law, even if Skyrim is almost entirely enslaved, should be applied ONLY inside the city boundaries.

This because if you are approaching a city like Markarth or Solitude using a Horse, vanilla or Convenient doesn't matter, your character will "jump" stand on the saddle to perform the undressing animation and it will be stuck in that position FOREVER. We will be forced to reload a previous save.

It could be nice to add some "Boundaries Advertisings" like Route Signals just before the edge of the cell in which the law is applied, as workaround.

This should be done for sure for the minor cities in which there are not city walls, like Riverwood, Dawnstar, Falkreath and so on.

 

OR, pop up a message box (that needs the "ok" confirm by the player) that advices of this issue if you are riding a horse.

[WaxenFigure]

7 hours ago, NicoleDragoness said:

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Problem:

1. Even there are a lot of males with arousal over 70 this is what happens ALWAYS:

   Male is horny and wants to fuck a slave -> Wants to fuck the Slave XXXX, "But this pussy is occupied" ??? --- but this slave is doing nothing related to sex! WTF?

   or

   Male is horny wants to fuck a slave or a free -> wants to fuck free YYYYY, "But this pussy is occupied" (AGAIN?? She is doing nothing, again!)

And of course no sex happens.

 

...

Open the console and enter "TB".  Note the thin yellow lines that indicate cell borders, what you'll see is that Male decides to fuck slave but between the time the slave is picked and the test that results in that frequently erroneous message the slave wanders over one of those cell boundaries and is no longer in the same cell as the horny male.   I watched a set of guys and one gal last night as they all stood and randomly wandered back and forth across a boundary that was in the middle of the point they were all supposed to be and saw that it action so I know that's what it's doing.

 

That needs to be rewritten to use quest aliases and distance instead of a cell scan so it works properly, something I've meant to do but have never gotten more than a half-assed start on.

 

 

[NicoleDragoness]

I wans't aware that inside the Bannered Mare there were cell boundaries. Because what I described above happenend (and still happens with the Slave Servant) in this Inn.

 

At least 20 - 25 attempts by the males before one og them finally goes to rape her. And then, again, other dozens of failed attempts because "this pussy is already occupied"

even if she is only sitting and drinking.

 

Nota that I disabled this Slave Servant once (by console, noting before the ID) and the same happened with, Hulda, Carlotta Valentia, Saadia and a custom merchant.

Less attempts, I should say, but still a lot for each.

 

The worst thing is that every male stops at his first attempt and for all the cycles and the "target", other than the slave, seem to be almost the same.

My character, during an entire night long, was raped only once. Just to say.

[deathknight25]

Does any one know the how to get past the first meeting with pike. The dialogue tree just takes me right back to the words "I'm your new acquisition "

[Lupine00]

8 hours ago, NicoleDragoness said:

The worst thing is that every male stops at his first attempt and for all the cycles and the "target", other than the slave, seem to be almost the same.

My character, during an entire night long, was raped only once. Just to say.

This can have the opposite effect if they have picked you first.

 

I never found the men-use-slaves-in-city functionality to work even close to right, even during the day, when there are other women around.

 

At night, I would see no other women in Whiterun, so every horny guy, and animal, would pick me. On top of that, they were really determined. I would be going through the gate to see Bellamy, and some guy I passed just outside Dragonsreach would port onto me, through the load-gate, just as I came out into the gates area, then run a sex scene, inside the whiterun gate itself, which leaves you stuck on the wrong side of the door, but in the gate zone, not in Whiterun, so you have to tcl to get back through the door. This would happen a lot.

 

I did mean to mention how absurd it was that a character in the city who never even had LOS on me, would manage to track me down outside the city, but I guess there was stuff I cared more about. I could see this scrolling past on the top left, I would be out of LOS of everyone in Whiterun, and I'd see the messages churn over, and inevitably they would pick me.

 

The most annoying part is that once they lock on, you freeze and can't move, and have to stand there waiting, for up to a minute while this idiot runs across the city to reach you.

 

If you are out of LOS, they should just give up.

 

 

I guess fixing this sort of thing would lift the feeling of quality a bit, and make a fun mini game, dodging the rapists.

 

 

Instead of considering what would best present the illusion to the player, the code is trying to simulate the men searching for a slave, simply because that's what is supposed to be happening. It produces a bad outcome, and its a waste of CPU cycles. Anything that you can see should be player-centric.

 

It would be more dependable, if the search was done in a radius around the SLAVE, not driven by the MEN. Every "regular interval" but not too often, so you don't get the annoying chain fuck perma-pin ... every interval, it should iterate over the SLAVES, and see if there is anyone NEAR them with LOS, who is eligible to fuck them. If if finds more than one, then no problem, group-sex. And everyone gets satisfied at once, instead of getting pinned by a repeating seven man chain fuck, where the guy at the back of the queue is ready to go again long before the others are finished...

 

Though with the broken SexLab Arousal code, you'll find they never really get relief, but they give up anyway after a few goes. The enhancements only break it worse. I use vlk now, and even if it had a compatibility issue, it would still be working better than Arousal ever did.

 

[NicoleDragoness]

Sorry, another question (maybe stupid):

 

Playing as free female with Testmode (cheats) enabled, wiil be the Colosseum/Arena built automatically (without quest/actions by the player)?

If yes, what is the walktrough?

[NicoleDragoness]

3 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Though with the broken SexLab Arousal code, you'll find they never really get relief, but they give up anyway after a few goes. The enhancements only break it worse. I use vlk now, and even if it had a compatibility issue, it would still be working better than Arousal ever did.

With the modifies scripts from SL Separate Orgasm by Ed86, they actually will be satisfied.

[Lupine00]

1 minute ago, NicoleDragoness said:

With the modifies scripts from SL Separate Orgasm by Ed86, they actually will be satisfied.

SLSO works sporadically. Other times, it seems like a random number generator, or does nothing at all.

It doesn't offer any noticeable improvement over basic SLA for me, and certainly not in the same league of "working as expected" as vlk.

I love the idea of it, but it needs to work more predictably, or at all, and compatibility with SLAV would be nice.

[Kenjoka]

15 hours ago, deathknight25 said:

Does any one know the how to get past the first meeting with pike. The dialogue tree just takes me right back to the words "I'm your new acquisition "

It would help if you give more information, for example which version are you playing?

 

On 20.2.2018 at 11:31 PM, Strathi123 said:

Works great so far but when the "Main" Colosseum is build and I talked to Mundus he send me to the stables to catch somebody ( you know who :-) ) but when I talk to him he only greets me and the dialogue window disapears. How can I go further in the questline?

Ok, bugfix is uploaded... or I hope at least it fixes this problem

 

if you have alpha 2 installed you can just update to alpha 3 (if < alpha 2 you need a cleansafe), in the fomod installer are also the missing crawling animations.

They can be installed optional (for those who struggle with the max animation limits), but if you install them run FNIS of course.

At the moment the crawling is active if MCM option is set, if the first slave training is finished and after you zone to a free cell and back to an enslaved area (I will change the last condition in a future version)

 

 

And maybe some short status update, the next version will be the beta. Here's what I am currently working on (done means it is implemented, but untested)

- add dialogue for all random fights, random shows -- in progress
- ingredients for all furniture recipes -- done
- add missing furnitures in funfair+training area -- done
- funfair stripper quest -- in progress
- slave gladiator training quest -- in progress
- lock position for whipping -- done
- bounty hunter- - in progress, but at the moment I am very unhappy with it; doesn't work as I want
- Finn quest -- in progress

[corvisrex]

Testing out alpha2c, figured I would help find bugs.  Playing as female  slaver, and had a gllitch in riverwood, twice.  once the DD devices are on Sigrid she temporarily disapears, through the first half of the whipping scene, she shows back up after the whipping is complete.  Same thing happened to the slave wearing DD devices  that I escort to Lucen, she disappears as soon as we get to Riverwood.  she too  shows back up after the sex scene in the RW trader.  

This is also the first time I have been using both DD4 and Zaz 8 so I don't know if it is related to your mod or them.  just thought I would let you know.

 

Great work so far, excited to so where you go with this mod, SRR is probably my favorite LL mod out there.  

[NicoleDragoness]

Even with the Alpha 3 I still have the problem of men not fucking the Slave inside the Bannered Mare because "this pussy is already occupied". And this happens also for free females, expecially Hulda. It happens also for the Player if I make her to sit somewhere or to cook or to doing something other "vanilla" animation.

 

I suppose it's something related to the vanilla idles that the Slave, Gulda, Carlotta Valentia and so on are performing during the scan.

 

In fact, if they are sitting, drinking, posing on the bank, they are NEVER involved in sex.

When I forced them to simply walk (for example using the command "moveto player") then they are fucked.

 

Another thing that it's probably related is that SLV refuses to use beds even if they are set to always use in SexLab. This is a mistake and, as I wrote above, probably related to females perfoming idles sitting onchairs and so on. To avoid the sex to happen "inside" furnitures, they are skipped by the scan system instead of raising up and going in bed.

A good thing for exteriors, maybe. A terrible thing inside.

[zhuguannan123]

yea...the crawling feature is not working.... i'm using the lastest version, yes i downloaded and installed the animaiton mod, yes i ran the fnis

[Heinz01]

The Colosseum is really a great addition to your mod. Really like it. Done the Quest regulary until i had to activate testmode (when i had to find gladiators) to finish it. Apart from the known missing things i found out, that the chest at the building site does not keep your items.

 

Things i would wish:

 

As the slavers always confront the free PC that she has to make sure to be financially indipendent or she will be enslaved: how about a weekly Tax (maybe picked up by a courier)? If not able to pay, then get enslaved. This would force the PC to consider more making pike tasks or the arena quests as a "save" income. Would also love more different tasks (like dance for visitors at the funfair etc).

 

A suggestion for reducing "submissiveness": Winning an arena fight w/o being raped should give an increase of self confidence and reduce the submissive counter by a few points. So we would have a risky way to handle our submissiveness. Losing could instead raise it a bit.

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, Heinz01 said:

A suggestion for reducing "submissiveness": Winning an arena fight w/o being raped should give an increase of self confidence and reduce the submissive counter by a few points. So we would have a risky way to handle our submissiveness. Losing could instead raise it a bit.

Not only makes sense "immersively" but also sounds like a good gameplay mechanic.

[SuperNixon]

I'm currently playing the latest alpha and I'm still getting the problem with the falmer scene. My character walks into the cell and I get all the usual messages but no animation starts. Other scenes with animals play fine (horse, dog) but the falmer doesn't do anything. Manage to get a screen of the console output this time thought.

[zhuguannan123]

2 hours ago, SuperNixon said:

I'm currently playing the latest alpha and I'm still getting the problem with the falmer scene. My character walks into the cell and I get all the usual messages but no animation starts. Other scenes with animals play fine (horse, dog) but the falmer doesn't do anything. Manage to get a screen of the console output this time thought.

have you installed fus ro dah?

[Executaball]

Sorry if this was mentioned before in a post, but is the finding animals and gladiators quests (currently only skippable) implemented in beta 3?