Jump to content

[Question] looking for TBBP animations


Gothfather

Recommended Posts

I have spent a few days trying to find some updated information about TBBP and I cant seem to find what I am looking for simply because of the incredible amount of post that include the word TBBP.

 

When I last player Skyrim about a year ago TBBP has some issues with crushed breasts on dead npcs, butt animations not working correctly. And the mod author of TBBP dragonfly (or something similar) had stopped modding for skyrim. Yet I have seen lots of armours and body's being made that are TBBP compatible.

 

Here is what I know so far, to get tbbp...

 

1) I need a body with Tbbp meshes I use the unbp body which has two versions of the tbbp body.

 

2) I need a compatable skeleton which I have, XP32's.

 

3) Tbbp compatable armours to show the animations while wear clothes.

 

4) tbbp animations

 

So I can solve all these requirements pretty easily on my owe except the animations. I have found doing a google search of "tbbp animations" to be fruitless for information gathering. I also have not been able to find a current TBBP thread or the old thread. (which as I recall didn't not use the term Tbbp in the title making it more difficult to find. But my memory may be false after this long)

 

Is there a list of tbbp animations? And has tbbp progressed over the last year I was gone from skyrim gaming?

 

 

I know all bbp and vanilla animations work with the tbbp system but its sorta pointless to have tbbp and just use bbp or vanilla animations.

 

And are there breast only TBBP animations? the extra bones in the breasts make for some nice bounce.

 

Anyway thanks for the assist and sorry I couldn't figure this out on my own but after a week of confusion and loads of reading threads that didn't answer my question. I have given up trying to solve this on my own.

 

[edit] I am looking for a complete set of tbbp animations

 

idle

walking (360 degrees)

running (360 degrees)

jumping (forwards and backwards)

sneaking

weapon use

spell use

 

Link to comment

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/34713/?

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24339-sexy-idle-animation-by-red31133dm/

 These are good idles that can use tbbp. Butterfly being the better example imo. Also i highly suggest you use HDT physics with those tbbp animations :)

Thank you.

 

As I recall the nexus version of tbbp is the one with all the problems wasn't it? With the crushed breasts on nude dead bodies and problematic butt bounce. Or where these problems do to the tbbp body mesh vs the animations?  

 

HDT physics is all greek to me. It took me a while to realise all these references to HDT didn't mean the high heel mod by the AnK team when I was doing my tbbp search. So I figured get tbbp working then try the "advance coarse"  

 

Also I am looking a complete set of Tbbp animations which was not at all clear in my first post sorry.

 

Idle

walking

running

jumping

sneaking

weapon use

spell use

 

Link to comment

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33914/?

This one includes most, she has more files on her profile

 

Err I am looking for TBBP animations

 

 

 

 

Q & A:

Q. Compatible with BBP?

-No. But you may use.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33914/?

 

If you can use these animations with bbp then they can't be Tbbp animations. The only way that answer makes sense is if it means No these animations are not BBP but you can use them with a BBP body. Which means that these animations can't be TBBP because you can't use tbbp animations with a bbp body. (At least that is my understanding hense all the crashing that happens when people try to use tbbp with bbp or vanilla bodies.)

Link to comment

I asked the same question not long ago in this thread: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28493-a-question-about-tbbp/

 

...and at moment I am googling for TBBP animations. To be honest, I found only a few so far and the most replace the walk/run animations and the mt_idle.hkx (the standard standing idle). You should make yourself friend to the idea to maybe replace some animations with simple BBP animations, which neverthless will work with your TBBP body meshes.

 

I use the newest standard XP32 as skeleton and Ragdolls'n Force and use the CBBE Body, to be more specific the CBBEAdvancedBody (CBA) TBBP mesh created by Bodyslide2 and various CBA TBBP or CB++ TBBP outfit meshes. I realized that a lot (if not almost all) CBBE BBP outfits work with installed TBBP animations, I experienced no CTDs or deformed body meshes, the only result by using a TBBP animation for a BBP mesh might be, that your TBBP animation delivers not all breast and butt jiggling it might be able to do, but still shows a reasonable BBP effect. So I will list some good BBP choices too, because you won't find any TBBP animations for sneak, magic cast and weapon use. I googled for hours and haven't found any.

 

So here some good lists and sources:

 

TBBP:

 

-The Dragonyfly standing idle, walk and run animations on nexus: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/34713/?

 

They work for me without any deformations. I just use the .hkx files, nothing else, not Dragonfly's skeleton, not the body mesh.

 

-Alternative TBBP walk and run idles: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28493-a-question-about-tbbp/?p=712541

 

I haven't used them yet, because the normal dragonfly work flawlessly for me, I just replaced the mt_idle.hky by one from R1313 (because they are gorgeous and sexy as hell).

 

-R1313's TBBP idles: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24339-sexy-idle-animation-by-red31133dm/

 

I would really replace the mt_idle.hkx by one of R1313s'. They are just great and the exaggerated moving around of your female followers while using Dragonfly's standard standing idle replacer will annoy you soon.

 

BBP:

 

-XP32 New Animation Pack: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29622/?

 

It has loads of links to his other BBP mods. Not all animation mods in this package are BBP enabled.

 

-noMaam Breathing Idle: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/7093/?

 

-CrawlonFours (Catwomanstyle): http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33097/?

 

Although not TBBable, only BBPable, this is the best sneaking animation by miles I have found so far. It replaces all sneaking animations and the standard sneaking idle. You will love that when you play a female character in skimpy clothes in 3rd person view.

 

-Female Animation Pack: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29408/?

 

The most underrated animation mod on Nexus and in Skyrim. This mod replaces almost every single animation (walk, run, idles, sneak, magic cast, weapon use) by a BBP version. The jiggling is not the best, but at least it has some and the animations itself are a matter of taste. If you dislike hentai animation style stuff, it might not be for you, but nevertheless the animations look very feminine. The best is, I have no issues to play this animations even while using a TBBP body or outfit mesh.

 

 

Sadly a lot of real awesome animation packs as:

 

-Anim Replacer twohanded: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/16351/?

-Anim Replacer Mystic Knight: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33914/?

-Immersive Animations: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/34950/?

-XP32's New Animations for...packages (included in the above linked animation package)

-Pretty Female Idles:  http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/11954/?

-Pretty Combat Idles: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/15703/?

-3ukalipto Elegant Archer animations (can't find a downlink link right now, but should be somewhere on the internet)

 

aren't even BBP enabled.

 

There was a time where you could't find TBBP outfits, but nowadays TBBP conversions by Bodyslide2 and Outfitstudio aren't a big problem anymore, the problem are the missing TBBP animations.

 

 

 

Link to comment

Wait so vanilla animations will cause breast bounce when using the HDT system? Any animation works now?

 

That might explain why it is so hard to find Tbbp animations now as they are not needed.

 

let me research this then and see if I can't figure it out.

 

 

 


I asked the same question not long ago in this thread: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28493-a-question-about-tbbp/

 

...and at moment I am googling for TBBP animations. To be honest, I found only a few so far and the most replace the walk/run animations and the mt_idle.hkx (the standard standing idle). You should make yourself friend to the idea to maybe replace some animations with simple BBP animations, which neverthless will work with your TBBP body meshes.

 

I use the newest standard XP32 as skeleton and Ragdolls'n Force and use the CBBE Body, to be more specific the CBBEAdvancedBody (CBA) TBBP mesh created by Bodyslide2 and various CBA TBBP or CB++ TBBP outfit meshes. I realized that a lot (if not almost all) BBP outfits work with installed TBBP animations, I experienced no CTDs or deformed body meshes, the only result by using a TBBP animation for BBP mesh might be, that your TBBP animation delivers not all breast and butt jiggling it could able to do, but still shows a reasonable BBP effect. So I will list some good BBP choices too, because you won't find any TBBP animations for sneak, magic cast and weapon use. I googled for hours and haven't found any.

 

So here some good lists and sources:

 

TBBP:

 

-The Dragonyfly standing idle, walk and run animations on nexus: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/34713/?

 

They work for me without any deformations. I just use the .hkx files, nothing else, not Dragonfly's skeleton, not the body mesh.

 

-Alternative TBBP walk and run idles: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28493-a-question-about-tbbp/?p=712541

 

I haven't used them yet, because the normal dragonfly work flawlessly for me, I just replaced the mt_idle.hky by one from R1313 (because they are gorgeous and sexy as hell).

 

-R1313's TBBP idles: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24339-sexy-idle-animation-by-red31133dm/

 

I would really replace the mt_idle.hkx by one of R1313s'. They are just great.

 

BBP:

 

-XP32 New Animation Pack: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29622/?

 

It has loads of links to his other BBP mods. Not all animation mods in this package are BBP enabled.

 

-noMaam Breathing Idle: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/7093/?

 

-CrawlonFours (Catwomanstyle): http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33097/?

 

Although not TBBable, only BBPable, this is the best sneaking animation by miles I have found so far. It replaces all sneaking animations and the standard sneaking idle. You will love that when you play a female character in skimpy clothes in 3rd person view.

 

-Female Animation Pack: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29408/?

 

The most underrated animation mod on Nexus and in Skyrim. This mod replaces at least almost every single animation (walk, run, idles, sneak, magic cast, weapon use) by a BBP version. The jiggling is not the best, but at least it has some and the animations itself are a matter of taste. If you dislike hentai animation style stuff, it might not be for you, but nevertheless the animations look very feminine. The best is, I have no issues to play this animations even while using a TBBP body or outfit mesh.

 

Thank you.

 

I was aware that you can use bbp animation and vanilla animation with the tbbp system in terms of stability. You just get the bounce based on the type of animation none with vanilla and bbp with bbp.  But i was trying for the a complete tbbp animation set as i assumed that after a year of development they would have expanded the animation choices.

 

It now seems that HDT physics has superseded the tbbp system. in such a way that dedicated animations are not required. If I understand things correctly. which as I stated earlier explains the lack of dedicated tbbp animations. Thank you for the info on the animations.

Link to comment

My favourite running, sprinting ect anims are http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/34508/?

But it the breast/butt animations certainly doesnt matter now, they are now handled by real physics/collisions with the HDT plugin.

 

Oh, they look nice and it has a swimming animation. Wonder if the swimming one is BBP enabled.

 

 

...and yes, HDT physics seems to have superseded TBBP. But I will stay with TBBP/BBP for a while neverthless, it's just for the feeling and the knowledge to have tried and installed everything.

Link to comment

I dont know if the swimming is bbp enabled (animation), but if you use HDT it will have breast physics when swimming to, and in any case, physics "overwrites" the animations so it doesnt matter.

 

In fact, the same happens with those animations you linked that doesnt includes bbp animations, as long as your body is tbbp enables, they're gonna have breasts/butt bounce with HDT even if the animations didnt include it.

Link to comment

 

In fact, the same happens with those animations you linked that doesnt includes bbp animations, as long as your body is tbbp enables, they're gonna have breasts/butt bounce with HDT even if the animations didnt include it.

 

In a few weeks I will try HDT for sure.

Link to comment

Some of the links are dead, a few of them I believe you might find somewhere in the thread

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/15221-rel-new-updates-nov-28th-tender-bbp-a-new-bbp-simulation/

 

and yeah what fffsimon said, HDT is great and fairly easy to setup, the most difficult part is probably finding a physics setting you like best(hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml).

 

lol omg hdt is even more convoluted than tbbp. There are threads on the havoc object, threads on instead attaching the physics to the head mesh because your character always has the head. There are threads on 7b havoc bodies and cbbe bodies. Couldn't see a unp or unpb hdt body threads yet, but some threads have stated a tbbp body works fine others say no.

 

I think hdt physics may be rather simple to do if you know what is required much like tbbp is. I only had difficulty getting tbbp animations not in setting the body, skeleton and armours. But if you are coming to this fresh it is a nightmare because you don't know where to start, which threads are dead ends, which ones are experiments that have lead down the wrong path and which are ones work. There is one detailed tutorial but it is for the cbbe body only and as the author states he/she is new to hdt and doesn't fully understand things and the things in the thread could be wrong he/she is only stating what worked in his/her case. SO good luck if you are not using the same body.

 

And what is worse is some of the armour solutions are hdt version sensitive like the havoc object only works on earlier version of hdt so you have to know this in advance to installing things otherwise you are shit out of luck for that armour solution. 

Link to comment

In fact a nice guy posted a HDT setup guide right today in the HDT physics section and even a guide for my favorite body, the CBBE body: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28507-how-to-install-hdt-step-1-click-this-an-overly-descriptive-tutorial/

 

I guess, it maybe will be only days not weeks when I will do the change from TBBP/BBP to HDT.

 

Besides the HDT stuff you need a skeleton most people have installed already (XP32 + Ragdolls'n Force) and TBBP body/outfit meshes.

 

The later one was once a big problem, but now with Oufitstudio there isn't much of a shortage nowadays.

Link to comment

Any body with painted weighs in the breast bones, butt, etc, will work with HDT. So UNPB does (if you isntall the TBBP version). The 'HDT' specific bodies it's actually TBBP bodies but with weights cleaned to a better an optimized movement/collision/jiggle. I would recommend to start with HDT:

 

-Your body of your like, but should be TBBP weighted

-This ready pack that includes lastest stable plugin, havoc equipable object, etc.

-Animations shouldnt be a problem, just install the ones you like.

-I recommend one of these idle (#1 or #2) to test collision when the character grabbs her bewbs. You can adjust the collision with JFF.

-Hang around HDT forums.

Link to comment

I broke my build trying to go with HDT. my data folder back-up solved that issue but every time I try and add HDT the game doesn't even load the Bethesda logo. So I have some sort of instability or incompatibility with my current build and HDT.

 

I am going to try a fresh build, I have a vanilla data folder back-up. So I can see if a build of just these following mods/dlcs work.

 

skyrim

3 official DLCs

skse 1.7.0

4 unofficial patches

body mod (including skeleton, meshes and textures)

HDT physics

Live another life (to test.  Easier to test when you don't have to start the long ass intro every new character)

SkyUI

 

If I can get this as a base working then I can build from there.

 

Link to comment
  • 7 months later...

Umm, maybe this is a bit off-topic. But I really don't know where else to post this.

 

I tried HDT physics and my nomaam idle is not working anymore. The running-walking animations work and the breasts jiggle when my PC comes to halt after running/walking/sprinting and I'm loving it. But I can't seem to find a relatively normal idle that will give BBP effects with HDT physics. No sexy idle, something normal. If anyone can find one, help me out, ok?

Link to comment

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. For more information, see our Privacy Policy & Terms of Use