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HOW TO INSTALL HDT? Step 1: Click this - An overly-descriptive tutorial!

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FYI, on the 'fix' it's simple, you DO NOT need to download that specific skeleton, all you need to do is update the reference skeleton in Outfit Studio to use whatever currently installed skeleton you have.

 

Guide 4 Step 5 of the guide here tells you how to do it: http://www.loverslab...rials/?p=634515


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I just tried that and it didn't fix the problem, for some reason. Pulled the skeleton from character assets female, put it in that Caliente folder and changed the config, and then generated bodies with Bodyslide, looked the same as before (torpedo).


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I just tried that and it didn't fix the problem, for some reason. Pulled the skeleton from character assets female, put it in that Caliente folder and changed the config, and then generated bodies with Bodyslide, looked the same as before (torpedo).

 

That fix is for Outfit Studio, it doesn't fix problems with Bodyslide.

 

For Bodyslide you need an already made body that uses the correct T/BBP offsets, the above fix is for Outfit Studio users to rectify torpedo boobs when they make outfits and copy over weights and such.
 


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I follow all the instructions on section B, and I assumed I didn't have to do the HDT Havok Path method, since you didn't really mention that, so I replaced my body (I am using the old CBBE Manga Body). After I did so, and went back into the game, my character acted as if HDT was never installed, the hands went through the breasts. Then I reinstalled Havok Object, and equipping that did give the breasts HDT physics, but now occasionally it vibrates and when it makes contact with the hands it is stuck pointing upwards (much like the video below), and I am not using and hair with physics. I have also tried both with and without skeleton_female.hkx. I have not been able to solve this for the longest time (approx. 3 months?). Can you please tell me what I am doing wrong?

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F) CBBE for HDT Guide:

1. Get the body.

CBBE

Go through the installer. On the first tab, select that you want to create your own body and have bodyslide installed. Bodyslide lets you shape your character's figure and create different body types. The other options in the installer including Texblend are great too.

2. Get the add-on for Bodyslide.

Bodyslide 2 + Outfit Studio

If you're unfamiliar with this program, it makes Bodyslide more flexible and adds lots of nice things to it like new body types and sliders.
Outfit Studio is something else that can be used to convert outfits to different CBBE types.

2.5. (Optional Step) Download the HDT body.

HDT Body

 

Its not exactly a separate body from CBBE but something that will add on to your Bodyslide tool. A new body with lots of new sliders will be on the list.

There's also additional sliders that can be downloaded and sliders can be added to other body types. Blabba plans to make a guide for doing this.

I did notice that this body looks a tad bit different than the normal CBBE one in some ways that I didn't like, but some might prefer it.

(.. do note that the pregnancy stuff isn't going to be thrown at your face or be required so don't be afraid to download it like I was at first lol)

 

NOTE: If you use the extra ECE sliders from the XP32 skeleton I linked in the main HDT guide then you may get some small issues with this body type. Upon testing, I noticed that even when I didn't change any of the sliders through the race menu my character was a tad bit shorter and her breasts looked a little bit off.

If you want to use the HDT body, I don't recommend installing the extra sliders. If you want to use the sliders then use AdvancedTPPB.

 

3. Install a reference skeleton fix for Bodyslide.

If you plan to use (use, not just install into bodyslide) the HDT body, skip this step. Also, installing this fix will overwrite things like swords on your character's back.

But without this fix, you might notice your character's breasts being quite torpedo-ish when using the AdvancedTBBP body that I tell you how to install in the step below. If you actually want your character's breasts to poke out rather far then don't install this.

 

While I said not to overwrite things in the XP32 skeleton before, this is an exception.

Simply install this file over the old one:

Reference Skeleton Fix - make sure to get it at the above link here, not the "real vagina" download below.

Rename the file to skeleton_female.nif and place it here:

Data/ meshes/ actors/ character/ character assets female

 

4. Generate your body.
Skyrim/ Data/ CalienteTools/ Bodyslide/ Bodyslide.exe
At the top in the "Outfit/ Body" section click that and select the body type you want.
If you want bouncing lady parts, select CalienteBodyAdvancedTBBP.
If you downloaded the HDT body, you can also select HDTCBBEBodySlide but its not required to be used even if you downloaded it.

Select a preset. You can either form your own or use one from the list. The "Cbbe" one is the default and I recommend it if you're just starting out. You can always easily change it anytime.

Hit "Create Bodies" and there you go.

This is just for the character body. For clothing, see the clothing guide.

 

5. (Optional) Remove neck seam (easy way)

This isn't really HDT-related, but I've noticed some people don't really know about this so I'm going to include it real quick.

 

Install the face mod and any textures you want to use.

You'll probably have a noticeable neckseam. There are two versions of Texblend.

One is more complex and can do the job better and the other is simpler and can still work fine.

 

For the light version, its an optional download in the CBBE installer. You should have it by default. Just go to:

Skyrim/ Data/ CalienteTools/ TexBlendLite/ TexBlend.exe

 

Double click it. Wait for it to complete. And that's it. No more neck seam :)

 

6. (Optional) Additional edits.
Go in game and you may notice some clipping with certain weapons or want to make some simple adjustments without using bodyslide.
If you have ECE + The extra sliders from the XP32 skeleton I linked then you'll have a load of new slider options through "showracemenu"

.. you definitely know how to do this but if you reeally don't then open up the console and type in "showracemenu" for the race menu to pop up. (No quotation marks)

You can change things like breast and rear size and if the armour is TPPB then it'll scale with it. Extreme adjustments might result in clipping.
You can also change sizes and reposition weapons. It can work really well for moving something out of the way so it no longer goes into your character. This is part of why ECE with the extra sliders is so great.

 

 

G) Clothing for CBBE w/ HDT:

Once you have everything with HDT working, you're going to want things to wear.. Bodyslide and TPPB clothes are your best bet to work right with everything.

You can find conversions in some different places. Here's a few threads I found on here. I think there are more, but I don't feel like looking right now.

Just hunt yourself.

Bodyslide Armor and Clothes List

Bodyslide Armor and Clothes List v2
Outfit Studio Bodyslide 2 CBBE Conversions

Also, a lot of these work fully with physics and bodyslide:

Bodyslide Outfits and Mods
Even if you don't use bodyslide, you may at least want the amulets off of here so they are no longer floating off your character.

In a lot of cases, you'll need to install the armours normally and then install the conversions.
So do just that.

1. Get the armours.

Its as simple as that. Find armours with TPPB support preferably and ones that have conversions for bodyslide available. Bodyslide isn't necessarily needed if you want to use the default CBBE preset though.

2. Get the conversions.

Either by a manual install and merging them with your bodyslide folder or through NMM from Nexus.

3. Convert!

Once they're both installed, go open up BodySlide. In the top dropdown box, you should be able to find the outfits in the list now. You can click on the specific outfits and then select a preset from the list and hit create bodies.

Note: User-created presets will not show up in the list by default and the only way to add your preset to the clothes will be through a batch build. Its easy to get the presets to appear in the list. I might edit this post later to explain how.

You can hit create batch build in the bottom left as well. When doing this, you'll want to uncheck all the body related options and only leave outfits selected. So uncheck things like the "CalienteVanilla" body etc. You'll also only want to install one type of each armour/ clothing. So say you see something on the list twice. One might be plain and the other might say TPPB in the title. Uncheck the plain one and leave the TPPB one - assuming you're using TPPB.

Make sure you only have the right outfits on the list and not body types otherwise you'll notice some issues in game.
That should pretty much do it.

 

Hi there,

 

everything worked perfectly according to your guide. I use the HDT body and not the torpedo boob fix, and the boobs look good (without the hdt body there are torpedo boobs). Then i installed my armor pack (http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/25259/?) and now i have torpedo boobs with the armor and no torpedo boobs when nude. :dodgy:

So i used the batch function in bodyslide as suggested, the torpedo is gone but also the physics (bouncy). :( Do you guys have any suggestions? Thank you!
 


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I follow all the instructions on section B, and I assumed I didn't have to do the HDT Havok Path method, since you didn't really mention that, so I replaced my body (I am using the old CBBE Manga Body). After I did so, and went back into the game, my character acted as if HDT was never installed, the hands went through the breasts. Then I reinstalled Havok Object, and equipping that did give the breasts HDT physics, but now occasionally it vibrates and when it makes contact with the hands it is stuck pointing upwards (much like the video below), and I am not using and hair with physics. I have also tried both with and without skeleton_female.hkx. I have not been able to solve this for the longest time (approx. 3 months?). Can you please tell me what I am doing wrong?

Spoiler

 

You said equipping Havok Object gave the breasts physics. Are you saying that if you take Havok Object off your character then the physics disable completely?
What HDT version and XML are you using for Havok Object?
I've seen some really messed up collision before that was mostly caused by the XML file. You should use the default Havok Object setup until everything is working right - if you aren't.

If your character is behaving like the one in the video linked, it doesn't look the same kind of broken as hair with physics does or without the skele hhx. It seems to be working okay.

Maybe I'm off here, but the hands are going into the breasts because they're spaceship-sized.
Regardless of having collision enabled, its a set animation.
If the breasts are too small, I imagine the hands wouldn't even touch them and if they're as massive as in that video then they end up going through them.

As for the breasts pointing upward towards the end of the animation, that also is probably because of the size.
With normal sized breasts, the hands will rest above on the upper chest at the end of the animation.
However, with the.. erm.. spaceships.. The hands are still in contact with the breasts because of how much space they take up and thus the collision is still effecting them and due to the location the hands are at, it causes the breasts to tilt up in reaction.

If I'm right on this then the only real solution is to edit the animation so the character's hands better fit the body.

You could try out a normal-sized body just to see if everything works right first.

 

 

 

everything worked perfectly according to your guide. I use the HDT body and not the torpedo boob fix, and the boobs look good (without the hdt body there are torpedo boobs). Then i installed my armor pack (http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/25259/?) and now i have torpedo boobs with the armor and no torpedo boobs when nude. :dodgy:

So i used the batch function in bodyslide as suggested, the torpedo is gone but also the physics (bouncy). :( Do you guys have any suggestions? Thank you!
 

 

 

Hmm. Not sure why the batch function would get rid of physics unless you have multiple variants of the armours. E.G. some armours in bodyslide will have both a standard and TPPB version and you'll want to generate the TPPB one. Also, make sure you don't have any actual bodies selected on that list or you can run into a lot of issues.

 

Anyways, I've used HDT body before and don't remember getting this problem.. Maybe I did and just didn't notice.

If I find anything more out on it I'll let you know.


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Thank you for your answer. I did not notice any different options (TBBP or not) but i will check again. :shy:

 

Edit: No, there are just single files for each vanilla armor replacer that i can check in the batch build. This is really weird. Finally i thought i would get everything to work properly. :(


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Thank you for your answer. I did not notice any different options (TBBP or not) but i will check again. :shy:

 

Edit: No, there are just single files for each vanilla armor replacer that i can check in the batch build. This is really weird. Finally i thought i would get everything to work properly. :(

 

Thinking on it more, you probably need outfits specifically for the HDT body maybe (GL finding those)

I believe you'll have to use Outfit Studio to convert outfits.

 

I'm not really sure, but I don't use the HDT body for a number of reasons.

Any reason you don't just use AdvancedTPPB?

 

You should try the HDT body thread if you want better support for it. I can't offer much as I don't use the body type and have little experience with it. I have edited the tutorial to specify this more and that it isn't the exact same as CBBE thus it might function more like a separate body.

 

http://www.loverslab...e/658-hdt-body/

Also, there seems to be a patch for the Remodeled Armor mod if you scroll down the page. You could try that out and see if it works.


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Thanks for looking into it again. I am not using the TBBP body because of the torpedo boobs bug and i did not use the fix because you mentioned that it overwrites some features of the skeleton such as weapons on back etc.


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Thank you for your answer. I did not notice any different options (TBBP or not) but i will check again. :shy:

 

Edit: No, there are just single files for each vanilla armor replacer that i can check in the batch build. This is really weird. Finally i thought i would get everything to work properly. :(

 

Thinking on it more, you probably need outfits specifically for the HDT body maybe (GL finding those)

I believe you'll have to use Outfit Studio to convert outfits.

 

I'm not really sure, but I don't use the HDT body for a number of reasons.

Any reason you don't just use AdvancedTPPB?

 

You should try the HDT body thread if you want better support for it. I can't offer much as I don't use the body type and have little experience with it. I have edited the tutorial to specify this more and that it isn't the exact same as CBBE thus it might function more like a separate body.

 

http://www.loverslab...e/658-hdt-body/

Also, there seems to be a patch for the Remodeled Armor mod if you scroll down the page. You could try that out and see if it works.

 

 

HDT Body is TBBP and you don't need any special 'conversion' for it, is jut a cleaner bone weighted Caliente Advanced TBBP body, plus some more sliders. There's actually no reason I can think of to not use it instead of the old Advanced TBBP.
 


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For me, the "torpedo boobs bug" looks so silly that i do not want to use the AdvancedTBBP body:

 

For some reason with the TBBP body my character had massive torpedos when naked as well as dressed. This changed only when i installed the HDT body. Naked looks perfect now, but when clothed i again had torpedos. So i converted the armors via batch build. Now the breasts look almost iodentical to the naked ones (which is good), but they lost their jiggle. That is my problem. :(


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There's actually no reason I can think of to not use it instead of the old Advanced TBBP.

 

I personally don't use it because it seems to have a conflict with the extra ECE sliders (Blabba suggest not to use them), the body is slightly different in size than the normal CBBE body such as the breasts being a bit off (When asking Blabba about this, he said he wants to fix that eventually), the problem Peter is having with clothes not having the right reference skele (like with the normal CBBE body) and thus giving torpedo tits when clothed.

 

Plus I personally can't notice any difference with physics when using the body and all of the extra sliders can be added to the other bodies.

Regardless, I'd also use it if it weren't for the above reasons but I like the ECE sliders alot and don't like the visual differences. I'm picky :P
 

And in the HDT body thead, Blabba mentions outfit conversions and I've seen some done which is why I assumed they needed to be.

Peter is having everything look fine on his character's bare body, but something about bodies linked to outfits is giving him problems and functioning more like the normal CBBE which made me think it comes down to the reference skele the outfits are using or something.

 

Just as a test... hey Peter..

 

For me, the "torpedo boobs bug" looks so silly that i do not want to use the AdvancedTBBP body:

 

For some reason with the TBBP body my character had massive torpedos when naked as well as dressed. This changed only when i installed the HDT body. Naked looks perfect now, but when clothed i again had torpedos. So i converted the armors via batch build. Now the breasts look almost iodentical to the naked ones (which is good), but they lost their jiggle. That is my problem. :(

 

Whether you like this outfit or not, go ahead and try it out:

http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/51112/?

 

According to the comments, it may have issues. Dunno'.

Tell me if you still get torpedo tits with it. I'm a bit busy to try it myself.


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Whether you like this outfit or not, go ahead and try it out:

http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/51112/?

 

According to the comments, it may have issues. Dunno'.

Tell me if you still get torpedo tits with it. I'm a bit busy to try it myself.

 

 

Hey thank you for the tip. Fits perfectly after conversion. No torpedos and still jiggle. :D


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Whether you like this outfit or not, go ahead and try it out:

http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/51112/?

 

According to the comments, it may have issues. Dunno'.

Tell me if you still get torpedo tits with it. I'm a bit busy to try it myself.

 

 

Hey thank you for the tip. Fits perfectly after conversion. No torpedos and still jiggle. :D

 

 

Interesting. So maybe that means conversions to HDT body do help then?

I'm still trying to learn Outfit Studio myself, but since the bodies are so similar it might not be that hard to convert in it. Worth a shot :P


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Yes, looks like it. :shy:

Never used it before, maybe i'll have the time to try it as well. :D


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Something i also noticed now, using several sexlab mods, as well as looking at naked NPC females (e.g.bathing beauties): The only character with bouncing assets is my character, all the other female chars have static breasts. is this normal with HDT?


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Something i also noticed now, using several sexlab mods, as well as looking at naked NPC females (e.g.bathing beauties): The only character with bouncing assets is my character, all the other female chars have static breasts. is this normal with HDT?

 

Ah, I was meaning to look into this but totally forgot to.

I'll check today.


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Something i also noticed now, using several sexlab mods, as well as looking at naked NPC females (e.g.bathing beauties): The only character with bouncing assets is my character, all the other female chars have static breasts. is this normal with HDT?

 

No.  I'm using HDT with no other BBP/TBBP animation mods, and I see my followers and other NPCs bounce.  What body mod are you using?
 


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Something i also noticed now, using several sexlab mods, as well as looking at naked NPC females (e.g.bathing beauties): The only character with bouncing assets is my character, all the other female chars have static breasts. is this normal with HDT?

 

No.  I'm using HDT with no other BBP/TBBP animation mods, and I see my followers and other NPCs bounce.  What body mod are you using?
 

 

 

I am using CBBE Bodyslide with the HDT body as described in this thread. (so no previous UNPB installation as recommended in the CBBE description/FAQ on nexus, because i thought this is obsolete when using HDT) :(


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I installed the XMPS Maximum skeleton extended as recommended in the OP, the CBBE HDT body (and no other body), the HDT stable version from October, and the Remodeled Armor for CBBE Bodyslide. I then used Bodyslide 2, chose the CT77 CBAdvanced preset and CalienteBodyAdvanced TBPP outfit/body and did a batch build.  All of the NPCs running around in leather or hide armors, or the short mage robes, have TBBP action.  Both my PC and NPCs have breast movement during sex scenes.


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