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I'd be more than happy to stand corrected' date=' but I'm pretty sure the reason why Nalim responded the way he did is because he understands both how the game uses sliders and how body meshes work. The game uses two meshes and basically morphs between the two with the slider.

 

The idea that keeps getting beat around "Oh make a body mod that just allows you to change everything with a slider for each one" is most likely impossible due to the way the game handles NPC's and body meshes in general. If for instance you wanted to make a body that only changed breast size you'd need two bodies for that. Then you'd need two more for one that just changed butt size. This formula would have to be followed for every possible change you would want. And that's not even the half of it. What happens if you want both small hips, big breasts and a big ass? Well the game would have to mix a combination of all those body meshes together. That's mixing not just the six meshes together...but every combination of those meshes as well. Which means since there's 36 different combinations those meshes can be combined you'd have to create 36 different meshes. This would continue for every "change" you were wanting for those meshes.

 

This is all just assuming you find a way to "trick" the game into doing this to begin with since the game doesn't support the extrapolating of anything more than two meshes together. So you'd have to find a proper way to script that in the game. Which assuming you could, would break all NPC's in the game due to the change in how Skyrim would mix what was originally only two meshes.

 

I could go on but it just seems pointless. It seems that this idea is way to far out in left field to even be worth theory crafting over. Is it impossible? No it's not. Is it likely? No it's very unlikely that someone will dedicate a year or more to doing something like this.

 

BY THE WAY. Modders would then have to create armor for these meshes. Which would mean recreating the SAME piece of armor repeatedly for every mesh that is needed for the mixing. Meaning if you just want 6 sliders and that took 36 meshes...well a modder would have to mod his one armor set to all 36 meshes....and even then it's still possible that you'd wind up with the mesh distorting in some way in any number of combinations that would just eat up time.

 

Okay I'm done. I could go on forever.

 

Edit: I'm just realizing that there may be an easier way to do this than the method I mentioned before. But I won't bother writing it out because even though it's easier...it's just as unlikely to ever be done.

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I agree that it's unlikely but it's not quite as complicated as you put it. It would all hinge upon whether or not someone could get morph target animations working in Skyrim. The way the game already does it's body size scaling is basically a single morph target that affects the whole body as one. If the mesh could contain multiple morph targets and the system could be isolated to only affect one morph target at a time. It's quite possible that this is simply impossible due to the stupid way they implemented their morphing, but still there's some potential. Another way is to dump the morph target system altogether and see if it's possible to get the slider system to affect skeletal nodes. The additional skeletal nodes could then be made to scale various parts of the body (much like VORB's system but built in to the game), though I feel sorry for the poor sap that sits down and makes all those nodes scale correctly through the full range of sliders. Sadly though it is probably all just wishful thinking because it would require quite a bit of work and in-depth knowledge of the game engine to make either happen.

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I agree that it's unlikely but it's not quite as complicated as you put it. It would all hinge upon whether or not someone could get morph target animations working in Skyrim. The way the game already does it's body size scaling is basically a single morph target that affects the whole body as one. If the mesh could contain multiple morph targets and the system could be isolated to only affect one morph target at a time. It's quite possible that this is simply impossible due to the stupid way they implemented their morphing' date=' but still there's some potential. Another way is to dump the morph target system altogether and see if it's possible to get the slider system to affect skeletal nodes. The additional skeletal nodes could then be made to scale various parts of the body (much like VORB's system but built in to the game), though I feel sorry for the poor sap that sits down and makes all those nodes scale correctly through the full range of sliders. Sadly though it is probably all just wishful thinking because it would require quite a bit of work and in-depth knowledge of the game engine to make either happen.

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Yea I noticed this after I posted. Which is why I said I realized there was another way of doing it. Like I said...is it impossible? No. But I still don't foresee anyone ever doing this when we can just pick a body mod that we like and go with it. And even if we did it this way that doesn't change the fact that adapting armors to them would be strenuously difficult.

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Gotta love the flamers in this thread. Lol, look guys, if this isn't your thing don't post here, as simple as that.

 

Talking about what is 'realistic' in terms of bodies, in a game with magic, dragons, gods, elves, and people who can use their voice to kill other people or change the weather, is sort of a moot point.

 

Futanari aren't real, we get it. Neither is skyrim. It doesn't stop us from enjoying it though.

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Talking about what is 'realistic' in terms of bodies' date=' in a game with magic, dragons, gods, elves, and people who can use their voice to kill other people or change the weather, is sort of a moot point.

 

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^ x1000

 

I'd see people in a thread that had a WIP of a large breasted body shape. And they would say things like "omg the backpain" or "this isn't realistic at all"

 

Like it wasn't the fire coming out of peoples hands or drinking potions that healed your wounds that made the game unrealistic

 

it was the huge boobs:rolleyes:

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Talking about what is 'realistic' in terms of bodies' date=' in a game with magic, dragons, gods, elves, and people who can use their voice to kill other people or change the weather, is sort of a moot point.

 

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^ x1000

 

I'd see people in a thread that had a WIP of a large breasted body shape. And they would say things like "omg the backpain" or "this isn't realistic at all"

 

Like it wasn't the fire coming out of peoples hands or drinking potions that healed your wounds that made the game unrealistic

 

it was the huge boobs:rolleyes:

 

LOL ...and yet most of the mods made for Skyrim already are those to make it more realistic. It's supposed to be a game, so who cares if the textures are pixelated and the breasts don't jiggle ;)

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Would anyone be interested in a full customization body mod that eliminated the need for different body mods? Basically a Body mod that would allow you to manipulate various sliders to get the shape you want... Most likely wouldn't add a dick girl body but that's just because i'm trying to stay lore friendly.

 

 

Thats what we need. More sliders, less FUTA (only cos I'm a "standard anatomy" kinda guy LOL), but yea, "different strokes" and all.

 

That way you could make what you want, and you wouldn't have to keep downloading body mods. You could even save each configuration, so in effect, your creating your own body mods, each time you save. So you could have an anorexic model (OMG, the ribs, avert your eyes, REPENT!) a curvy model (Oooh yea), a BBW model (Hmmm, maybe, dunno) or a standard model (play it safe lads). I guess you could put a nob in there too to appeal to the futa crowd, which will obviously open up the market more, if you include something for everyones tastes.

 

This would probably be RIDICULOUSLY hard to script though. If only you could simply copy & paste the morphing system from Poser. Then you'd have the most powerful character morphing toolset available. Aside from dedicated 3D modelling apps.

 

Oh well, a man can have his pipe-dreams...

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Would anyone be interested in a full customization body mod that eliminated the need for different body mods? Basically a Body mod that would allow you to manipulate various sliders to get the shape you want... Most likely wouldn't add a dick girl body but that's just because i'm trying to stay lore friendly.

 

 

Thats what we need. More sliders' date=' less FUTA (only cos I'm a "standard anatomy" kinda guy LOL), but yea, "different strokes" and all.

 

That way you could make what you want, and you wouldn't have to keep downloading body mods. You could even save each configuration, so in effect, your creating your own body mods, each time you save. So you could have an anorexic model (OMG, the ribs, avert your eyes, REPENT!) a curvy model (Oooh yea), a BBW model (Hmmm, maybe, dunno) or a standard model (play it safe lads). I guess you could put a nob in there too to appeal to the futa crowd, which will obviously open up the market more, if you include something for everyones tastes.

 

This would probably be RIDICULOUSLY hard to script though. If only you could simply copy & paste the morphing system from Poser. Then you'd have the most powerful character morphing toolset available. Aside from dedicated 3D modelling apps.

 

Oh well, a man can have his pipe-dreams...

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Well morphing between those would be hell but adding several bodytypes wouldnt be all that hard I believe. It would just need the same thinking as the cloning of clothes and editing the creation menu:

 

Add several new bodytype meshes and skins.

So you have 4 sliders all mutualy excluding;

 

For you that'd be:

BBW_0, BBW_1

Curvy_0,Curvy_0

Anorexic_0, Anorexic_1

Femalebody_0, Femalebody_1

 

For some of the Hentai freaks out there it might instead be:

FurryCat_0,FurryCat_1

FurryMouse_0, FurryMouse_1

InsaneSuperSizeHorseDickMegaTitsHugeButtFutaFurry_0, _1

 

That way you can keep NPCs as they are without needing to get replacers for all armors.

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The most important thing to me is diversity, I'd love it if mods could make it possible to have many different body types in Skyrim: curvy or slender, athletic or not, young or old...

 

But if I had to pick one, considering the setting, I'd go for the heroic muscular yet feminine type as depicted by Boris Vallejo:

 

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Some more examples:

 

 

 

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Though I also love the other body types he draws:

 

 

 

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I think this request probably won't get much attention, but I feel obligated to make it anyway.

 

A long time ago a body variant of HGEC was made for TES4 Oblivion and in my not so humble opinion it is by far the hottest, most realistic female body shape available for that game.

 

It's called THEC Body.

 

Here is the link.

 

Here is an image.

 

 

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I think this request probably won't get much attention' date=' but I feel obligated to make it anyway.

 

A long time ago a body variant of HGEC was made for TES4 Oblivion and in my not so humble opinion it is by far the hottest, most realistic female body shape available for that game.

 

It's called THEC Body.

 

Here is the link.

 

Here is an image.

 

 

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Omnomnomnom :heart:

 

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Request your bodytypes here and hopefully someone kind will decide to work on it. You never know.

 

 

Pudge Mage

I personally would like to request the following bodytype which would be great for mages I think.

 

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Sorry but when I saw the ''for mages'' thing I absolutely loled. Why for mages? Because they make grow gigantic dicks from their crotch? ROLF man, nice one.

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If I was a mage that didnt have a dick that'd definitely be the first spell I learned.

It's obvious I was talking about female mages.

 

 

In general those are the people without penises yes. I didn't say "If I was a male mage without a penis" :P

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This may sound kinda weird but is there anyway to make the vagina more open and more defined? more like a porn star whos been in the industry about 10 or 12 years. sounds kinda funny I know but with the ck around the corner and sex mods soon after do u think our cute lil innocent females are going to stay innocent? mine wont. lol Hope this is the right thread for this request

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This may sound kinda weird but is there anyway to make the vagina more open and more defined? more like a porn star whos been in the industry about 10 or 12 years. sounds kinda funny I know but with the ck around the corner and sex mods soon after do u think our cute lil innocent females are going to stay innocent? mine wont. lol Hope this is the right thread for this request

 

That's a really easy change. I won't be surprised if it's not long before someone does a more detailed vagina instead of a slit. It's just a case of one of the modelers wanting to take the time for something so trivial.

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This may sound kinda weird but is there anyway to make the vagina more open and more defined? more like a porn star whos been in the industry about 10 or 12 years. sounds kinda funny I know but with the ck around the corner and sex mods soon after do u think our cute lil innocent females are going to stay innocent? mine wont. lol Hope this is the right thread for this request

 

Depending on mods it'll be .... interesting to do the opposite and try and survive and remain pure as long as possible. :P

 

I'm definitely the minority' date=' so I don't expect it to happen, but when it comes to my personal preference, this is pretty much perfection. I would love to see mods that support this body type, smaller women with small breasts, but still an attractive frame.

 

 

 

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@PrincessPeach: Really like the photo! That's what I was aiming for with my first Skyrim female persona. Pretty much like the woman I'd like to be with (in fact, very similar to a couple of my last exgf's)

Just couldn't get the slider slender enough. But I do like the smaller breasts/slimmer/petite concept. Though my latest one is a blonde with longish hair, little more curvy (that persona is an homage to a coworker here that I would like to portray in the game).

 

@itt1968: Very nice! Glad to hear there are some slimmer mod's out there or on the way! Definitely would like to try them out. Whether I be a blonde or a short haired brunette, I still would like to ideally get a slimmer model than they give me in the unmodded game.

 

 

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