Can't get HDT collision to work even with Havok item equipped...

[MrCasual]

So I USED to be able to get collision to work with my old HDT settings, but it doesn't work anymore after I updated HDT.  Now I can't remember what I used to have it set to.

 

I have TBBP, and tried using HDT all in one, which is all you're supposed to need, right?  Everything else works fine, but when I equip my spouses with the HDT havok object, I can't get breast collision to work.  Am I missing something vital, or with the new system, do I have to manually edit their nifs?

 

Also, breast collision is supposed to collide on everything right, even during sexlab anims where the guys hands are near them?  I never could find a straight answer on this.

[gaggedgirl123]

IF I remember the tutorial right, you're supposed to add HDT detection to the male body if you want the males to be able to move the boobs by touching them.

 

Just, it'S been a while and I never managed to get my game working with HDT, so I can't really help you more than that

[pclp2014]

So I USED to be able to get collision to work with my old HDT settings, but it doesn't work anymore after I updated HDT.  Now I can't remember what I used to have it set to.

 

I have TBBP, and tried using HDT all in one, which is all you're supposed to need, right?  Everything else works fine, but when I equip my spouses with the HDT havok object, I can't get breast collision to work.  Am I missing something vital, or with the new system, do I have to manually edit their nifs?

 

Also, breast collision is supposed to collide on everything right, even during sexlab anims where the guys hands are near them?  I never could find a straight answer on this.

 

Sorry for the question but my english crappy.

Do you mean with "spouses" your wife or your husband?

 

How and what was previously installed?

And what is now installed exactly?

[MrCasual]

Wife, previous version was 9-28 I think, now its 10-25 I think

[pclp2014]

Wife, previous version was 9-28 I think, now its 10-25 I think

 

There are several options for breast collision.

With the hdt.xml and entry in the Nif files.

With the hdt.xml and HDT Havok Object.

Or the hdtPhysicsExtentsionDefaul.xml and HDT Havok object.

What have since installed it.

[MrCasual]

I have these installed:

 

hdtm.xml

hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll (10-25)

hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml (1-19-2014)

 

Actually after looking at the dates, I might know why it doesnt work anymore, but I did manage to get the Sexlab animations to work with BBP and HDT, and before I updated this stuff, they never worked together before...but now, no collision.

[pclp2014]

Whence then is the hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml (1-19-2014)?

 

 Is there integrated breast collision?

 

Maybe it would be easier if the links would post, where you got the "XML" and "HDT Havok Object" downloaded.

[MrCasual]

It was in the 3-in-one pack that was linked here Im pretty sure.  Maybe I don't need hdtm.xml anymore...meh this is confusing.

[pclp2014]

It was in the 3-in-one pack that was linked here Im pretty sure.  Maybe I don't need hdtm.xml anymore...meh this is confusing.

 

Maybe you installed the wrong option.

I attached the files as archive here. 

Unzip and copy ALL files from Data in your skyrim\data.

Make before a backup, if you wish.

 

HDT Havoc Object can be crafted in forge (Misc). You must equip it.

 

PS: If you use Mod Organizer, use Mod Organizer for install form archive

Data.7z

[MrCasual]

Hmm, I tried that pack and still no collision.  I'm really at a loss here. 

[pclp2014]

Hmm, I tried that pack and still no collision.  I'm really at a loss here. 

 

Please, send your hdt-log-file. Zip it and youn can.

[Guest Mogie56]

is there any bounce at all while walking? if so then what size are the breasts? (if not you may have a skeleton glitch) the hdt.xml works on larger sized breasts like most of the .xml's if there to small the hands won't move them. I believe the 3 in one is made for the plus size breasts, (larger then normal large breasts). the 3 in one also comes with it's own .dll and the .xml was written for it. if you have a newer .dll and or hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml then the 3 in 1 won't work properly. most of them past 10.25 are still unstable and there have been problems with the 10.25 as well the (hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml 01-05-2014) is for the 10-25-2013 .dll. if you have a 01-19-2014 .xml that may be your problem.

[MrCasual]

There's bouncing while walking, yes.  And the breast size is very plus sized:

 

 

 

 

Here's my log file, its kinda short so I'll just post it.

 

 

hdtPhysicsExtensions

[01/25/14 10:45:02]INFO: Queue OK

[01/25/14 10:45:02]INFO: System run with 8 threads

[01/25/14 10:45:02]INFO: Havok simulated world created.

[01/25/14 10:45:02]INFO: SKSEPlugin_Load

[01/25/14 10:45:21]INFO: Suspending ... Mist Menu

[01/25/14 10:45:32]INFO: Resuming... Fader Menu

[01/25/14 10:45:32]INFO: Suspending ... Loading Menu

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Resuming... Fader Menu

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Cell changed...

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 0001a69a

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 02002b74

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 6700a9cf

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 6f001831

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 6f001832

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 6f001833

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 6f001834

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 70000d63

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 70000d66

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 70000d6e

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 70000d72

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 73000d65

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 74003879

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 77001404

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 83009460

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 83017e63

[01/25/14 10:47:24]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

[01/25/14 10:47:25]INFO: Resuming... Cursor Menu

[01/25/14 10:47:44]INFO: Suspending ... TweenMenu

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Resuming... Cursor Menu

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Cell changed...

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 0001a69a

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 02002b74

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 6700a9cf

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 6f001831

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 6f001832

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 6f001833

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 6f001834

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 70000d63

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 70000d66

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 70000d6e

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 70000d72

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 73000d65

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 74003879

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 77001404

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 83009460

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 83017e63

[01/25/14 10:47:55]WARNING: Physics delta time > 0.2, lose time

[01/25/14 10:48:00]INFO: Suspending ... MessageBoxMenu

[01/25/14 10:48:02]INFO: Resuming... Cursor Menu

[01/25/14 10:48:08]WARNING: Physics delta time > 0.2, lose time

[01/25/14 10:48:16]WARNING: Physics delta time > 0.2, lose time

[01/25/14 10:49:09]WARNING: Physics delta time > 0.2, lose time

[01/25/14 10:49:18]WARNING: Physics delta time > 0.2, lose time

[01/25/14 10:49:18]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

[01/25/14 10:49:38]INFO: Resuming... Cursor Menu

[01/25/14 10:50:51]INFO: Resuming... Console

[01/25/14 10:50:51]INFO: Suspending ... Console

[01/25/14 10:50:57]INFO: Resuming... Cursor Menu

[01/25/14 10:51:20]WARNING: Physics delta time > 0.2, lose time

[01/25/14 10:51:21]WARNING: Physics delta time > 0.2, lose time

[01/25/14 10:51:40]INFO: Suspending ... Console

 

It MIGHT be my skeleton...I'm using the default weapon placement version of this

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25971-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended/

 

Which one here should I use for collision?

[pclp2014]

 

There's bouncing while walking, yes.  And the breast size is very plus sized:

 

 

 

 

Here's my log file, its kinda short so I'll just post it.

 

 

hdtPhysicsExtensions

[01/25/14 10:45:02]INFO: Queue OK

[01/25/14 10:45:02]INFO: System run with 8 threads

[01/25/14 10:45:02]INFO: Havok simulated world created.

[01/25/14 10:45:02]INFO: SKSEPlugin_Load

[01/25/14 10:45:21]INFO: Suspending ... Mist Menu

[01/25/14 10:45:32]INFO: Resuming... Fader Menu

[01/25/14 10:45:32]INFO: Suspending ... Loading Menu

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Resuming... Fader Menu

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Cell changed...

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 0001a69a

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 02002b74

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 6700a9cf

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 6f001831

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 6f001832

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 6f001833

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 6f001834

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 70000d63

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 70000d66

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 70000d6e

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 70000d72

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 73000d65

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 74003879

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 77001404

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 83009460

[01/25/14 10:47:13]INFO: Add character 83017e63

[01/25/14 10:47:24]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

[01/25/14 10:47:25]INFO: Resuming... Cursor Menu

[01/25/14 10:47:44]INFO: Suspending ... TweenMenu

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Resuming... Cursor Menu

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Cell changed...

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 0001a69a

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 02002b74

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 6700a9cf

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 6f001831

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 6f001832

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 6f001833

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 6f001834

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 70000d63

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 70000d66

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 70000d6e

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 70000d72

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 73000d65

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 74003879

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 77001404

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 83009460

[01/25/14 10:47:51]INFO: Add character 83017e63

[01/25/14 10:47:55]WARNING: Physics delta time > 0.2, lose time

[01/25/14 10:48:00]INFO: Suspending ... MessageBoxMenu

[01/25/14 10:48:02]INFO: Resuming... Cursor Menu

[01/25/14 10:48:08]WARNING: Physics delta time > 0.2, lose time

[01/25/14 10:48:16]WARNING: Physics delta time > 0.2, lose time

[01/25/14 10:49:09]WARNING: Physics delta time > 0.2, lose time

[01/25/14 10:49:18]WARNING: Physics delta time > 0.2, lose time

[01/25/14 10:49:18]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

[01/25/14 10:49:38]INFO: Resuming... Cursor Menu

[01/25/14 10:50:51]INFO: Resuming... Console

[01/25/14 10:50:51]INFO: Suspending ... Console

[01/25/14 10:50:57]INFO: Resuming... Cursor Menu

[01/25/14 10:51:20]WARNING: Physics delta time > 0.2, lose time

[01/25/14 10:51:21]WARNING: Physics delta time > 0.2, lose time

[01/25/14 10:51:40]INFO: Suspending ... Console

 

It MIGHT be my skeleton...I'm using the default weapon placement version of this

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25971-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended/

 

Which one here should I use for collision?

 

 

What surprises me is that you - the player ID 00000014 - not in the log.

Breast collision is activated with this code: "Physics system loaded: SKSE \ Plugins \ hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml".

 

I just do not know in which person. The player is not.

 

To clarify:

HDT All in One is not made ​​specifically for big breasts.

And the DLL is the normal DLL 10.25.

[Noiphistq]

Umm...Hello Ihave a little bit of problem ı'm not quite sure where to put my hdt.xml file.Its in Data\SKSE\Plugins
but
 

 

hdtPhysicsExtensions
[02/01/14 15:57:00]INFO: Queue OK
[02/01/14 15:57:00]INFO: SKSEPlugin_Load
[02/01/14 15:57:02]INFO: System run with 4 threads
[02/01/14 15:57:02]INFO: Havok simulated world created.
[02/01/14 15:57:32]ERROR: Load "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml" error - file no exist
[02/01/14 15:57:32]WARNING: Invalid havok serialize file : D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml
[02/01/14 15:57:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03front.xml
[02/01/14 15:57:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03Tail.xml
[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03front.xml
[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03Tail.xml
[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Cell changed...
[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Add character 00000014
[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Add character 00013484

this is my extension log says file does not exist.
I have attached my body files too if anyone can help i did be grateful

 

femalebody_0.nif

femalebody_1.nif

[Groovtama]

 

Umm...Hello Ihave a little bit of problem ı'm not quite sure where to put my hdt.xml file.Its in Data\SKSE\Plugins

but

 

 

hdtPhysicsExtensions

[02/01/14 15:57:00]INFO: Queue OK

[02/01/14 15:57:00]INFO: SKSEPlugin_Load

[02/01/14 15:57:02]INFO: System run with 4 threads

[02/01/14 15:57:02]INFO: Havok simulated world created.

[02/01/14 15:57:32]ERROR: Load "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml" error - file no exist

[02/01/14 15:57:32]WARNING: Invalid havok serialize file : D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03front.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03Tail.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03front.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03Tail.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Cell changed...

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Add character 00000014

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Add character 00013484

 

 

this is my extension log says file does not exist.

I have attached my body files too if anyone can help i did be grateful

 

 

You have a body xml that is not compatible with XP32's Hair Physic mod, either find an xml that is compatible, switch to an older HDT version, or don't use your xml with the hair phyiscs mod. Also your body xml path is wrong.

[Noiphistq]

 

 

Umm...Hello Ihave a little bit of problem ı'm not quite sure where to put my hdt.xml file.Its in Data\SKSE\Plugins

but

 

 

hdtPhysicsExtensions

[02/01/14 15:57:00]INFO: Queue OK

[02/01/14 15:57:00]INFO: SKSEPlugin_Load

[02/01/14 15:57:02]INFO: System run with 4 threads

[02/01/14 15:57:02]INFO: Havok simulated world created.

[02/01/14 15:57:32]ERROR: Load "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml" error - file no exist

[02/01/14 15:57:32]WARNING: Invalid havok serialize file : D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03front.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03Tail.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03front.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03Tail.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Cell changed...

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Add character 00000014

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Add character 00013484

 

 

this is my extension log says file does not exist.

I have attached my body files too if anyone can help i did be grateful

 

 

You have a body xml that is not compatible with XP32's Hair Physic mod, either find an xml that is compatible, switch to an older HDT version, or don't use your xml with the hair phyiscs mod. Also your body xml path is wrong.

 

but hdt.xml file in ithe Plugins and this is where i set my path to. do i need to do something else ?

[Groovtama]

 

 

 

Umm...Hello Ihave a little bit of problem ı'm not quite sure where to put my hdt.xml file.Its in Data\SKSE\Plugins

but

 

 

hdtPhysicsExtensions

[02/01/14 15:57:00]INFO: Queue OK

[02/01/14 15:57:00]INFO: SKSEPlugin_Load

[02/01/14 15:57:02]INFO: System run with 4 threads

[02/01/14 15:57:02]INFO: Havok simulated world created.

[02/01/14 15:57:32]ERROR: Load "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml" error - file no exist

[02/01/14 15:57:32]WARNING: Invalid havok serialize file : D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03front.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03Tail.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03front.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03Tail.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Cell changed...

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Add character 00000014

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Add character 00013484

 

 

this is my extension log says file does not exist.

I have attached my body files too if anyone can help i did be grateful

 

 

You have a body xml that is not compatible with XP32's Hair Physic mod, either find an xml that is compatible, switch to an older HDT version, or don't use your xml with the hair phyiscs mod. Also your body xml path is wrong.

 

but hdt.xml file in ithe Plugins and this is where i set my path to. do i need to do something else ?

 

Ok looked at your nif file, you have given an absolute path, but the path should be relative meaning it should be "Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml".

"D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml" as path would result in "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml" which is wrong.

[Noiphistq]

 

 

 

 

Umm...Hello Ihave a little bit of problem ı'm not quite sure where to put my hdt.xml file.Its in Data\SKSE\Plugins

but

 

 

hdtPhysicsExtensions

[02/01/14 15:57:00]INFO: Queue OK

[02/01/14 15:57:00]INFO: SKSEPlugin_Load

[02/01/14 15:57:02]INFO: System run with 4 threads

[02/01/14 15:57:02]INFO: Havok simulated world created.

[02/01/14 15:57:32]ERROR: Load "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml" error - file no exist

[02/01/14 15:57:32]WARNING: Invalid havok serialize file : D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03front.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:32]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03Tail.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03front.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Physics system loaded : DATA\MESHES\actors\character\character assets\hair\havok physx\AzarHairPonytail03Tail.xml

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Cell changed...

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Add character 00000014

[02/01/14 15:57:35]INFO: Add character 00013484

 

 

this is my extension log says file does not exist.

I have attached my body files too if anyone can help i did be grateful

 

 

You have a body xml that is not compatible with XP32's Hair Physic mod, either find an xml that is compatible, switch to an older HDT version, or don't use your xml with the hair phyiscs mod. Also your body xml path is wrong.

 

but hdt.xml file in ithe Plugins and this is where i set my path to. do i need to do something else ?

 

Ok looked at your nif file, you have given an absolute path, but the path should be relative meaning it should be "Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml".

"D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml" as path would result in "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml" which is wrong.

 

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