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#81
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Hi! I am new to this kind of thing. I spend all day trying to fugure a way to make things run properly! I downloaded everything and tried step by step to install everything. It didunt work at all. I had to reinstall the game around 20 times because i kept screwing things up. The one thing i am sure i did correctly is that i updated the game to the needed patch and installed oblivion mod manager. The other things i am not sure if i did correctly. I kept rewriting files one over the other trying to follow the steps Zikare shared. And nothing. I playd the game for half an hour running around with my not even slightly changed hero. English is not my native language so there where parts in the readme files i did not understand. So before i abandon all hope of ever getting these mods to work i will ask here : Can some one tell me wich mods to install to make this game work? And how to do it! If some one wants to help me with this please explain it the easyest most understandable way possible. I know this may be a lot to ask but i don't know what else to do!  :s

 

 

http://www.loverslab...h-bashed-patch/

 

Here you go.  Can't make it any more simple than this.

 

If you don't understand how to do the steps in that thread then you need to learn the basics of modding:  http://cs.elderscrol...livion_Mods_FAQ

 

Probably would be a good idea to bookmark those two pages until you are comfortable with how to install mods.

 

Cheers,

Greg


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Hello I wanted to ask if anyone can help me I have in my game no voice and the backgound music is only few minutes and then she's gone too. And my folder is like the example here.


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Hello, i have a little question.
 
I play from about 1 month now i think and i have no really problem.
But i have a question about load order.
 
We have some example about load order (like this topic and i have the same more or less with boss). But there is this topic too about load order
 
 
And this load order seems really different about the other different load order that we can see. So who is the best?
 
Thank you.

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Yes that Load order is bit strange. I have a lot of load orders (old) from asian sides and never are Tamago esp under Lovers esp.

I use BOSS, then I sort the Mods BOSS did not sort manually in the Mod manager(clothes Mods to sorted clothes Mods, Quest Mods to sorted quest Mods, .....Sort them in about alphabetically within the categories)

And for Lovers and Tamago Mods I use this Load order http://www.loverslab...e-posting-here/  (in the Spoiler)

 

If your game is stabel and you have no Problems do not change your Load order.


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Yes thank you for advice. Yes my game is stale but i think maybe that i miss some things maybe of my load order. Exemple position of some companion or maybe other things like word, new dungeon or other, race etc

 

Spoiler

 

What do you think about this? Need maybe changements or advice about placements? Thank you.


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Seems OK

But you should delete HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp ! HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp is a full replacer for HiyokoGeneratorCreature ! So don't use both !

And LoversMotionsNT.esp is empty, It is for People/modders who want to add sounds. So delete it !

 

Is this a armor Mod ? Unholy Darkness.esp If yes you can place is above Knights.esp

 

Some Load order Links

http://wiki.tesnexus...recommendations

http://tescosi.com/w...der#LO_Template

https://sites.google...stall/loadorder


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Okay thank you.

 

Unholy darkness is an overhaul vampire mod. Not tested yet ingame because it's was my first game.

 

 

Here we can see an another load order style who seems work fine according to the author

 

http://www.loverslab...animation-mods/

 

it's was a long time that i have played a game with mod. (my last game with mod was vice city \o/ ). I don't know if there is from this time a lot of change about game and mod, but seems that oblivion is difficult to mod.


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@ Salaméor - There was a recent thread and discussion on this here: Its Time For A New "Official" Load Order that IMO is a valuable read even to new players.

 

When it comes to Oblivion builds that include Lovers MODs, there are IMO two distinct 'core' Load Orders, and I've tested both and both work quite well under most conditions. The rest, IMO are just minor variations of those two. I've discovered, reviewed and tested many, some experimental some even down right bizarre, but it all comes back to those two as what I consider the defacto standard core LOs for Lovers based Oblivion builds.

 

The somewhat 'originating' Lovers LO was I think established by Donkey, a prior member and incredible contributor here on LL. Not sure where or how the 'other' LO came about, but it's the one I use today. I tend to consider it the more contemporary one, but that is just my opinion and view, and often subject to change. If for instance I found a MOD I couldn't live without and it works better with the older LO, I'd switch to it without a second thought. But for what I currently use in my current build, it for the most part works just fine and I'm not into testing or experimenting with new LOs.

 


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Okay so there is not really bad load order, but just need some basic conditions to the positions of som mod to resume correctly.


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Okay so there is not really bad load order, but just need some basic conditions to the positions of som mod to resume correctly.

 

No   there is a lot of bad Load Order   and 3 kind of Load order  :

  - 1  a first install where you drop every thing Inside data folder  and by incedible conflict equilibrium  every thing works (just do not add anything else)

 

  - 2 Boss/Loot  load order   + a manual load order for all lovers mods  following the load order exemple.

 

 -  3 i think it is chineese or corean (not sure)  a fonctional load order sharing in basis the same thing  (that you need to copy the schem)

 

any way there is no one sorte of  load order  as there is thousands of mods  (mostly it depands on what sort of mods you have and how many)


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Okay so there is not really bad load order, but just need some basic conditions to the positions of some mod to resume correctly.

 

Your core supposition above is correct.

 

A. Due to the moderate to heavy scripting involved in Lovers MODs, they must be placed in a certain position in an Oblivion build in relationship to other MODs, in order for everything to work right. This positioning pretty much trumps all other MODs. They also must be excluded from any batch patch, (with some exceptions noted in red in the example LO) again due to the Lovers scripting involved.

 

B. If you were to also manually review the BOSS masterlist file, you'll also note that it is structured. Most clothing, armor types of MODs can go higher up in your LO, while anything that changes the Oblivion environment or adds quests goes much lower in your LO. Any MODs that add scripting and/or new NPCs and/or new dialogue can be some of the trickiest to place, depending on other MODs you decide to use, and which Lovers MODs you use.

 

There are on occasion rare exceptions to B above, which can only be learned from either research, experimentation or both. As you begin to commit your specific Oblivion build to memory, it'll start to become a bit more intuitive.


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Hello, I'm honestly pretty awful at modding (tried with skyrim, failed miserably) outside of the steam workshop or NMM. I have the OBMM and installed a few of the suggested/required mods, like body replacers, NIF skeleton, invalidated the OBMM archive, and finally tried installing LAPF with OBMM, but when I have LAPF active my game crashes upon hitting new game. I don't have many other mods installed (Just moonshadow elves, alternative start, enhanced water, natural environments, natural grasses, graphics extender and reloaded). If I deactivate LAPF it works fine other than the female body having an issue with the breasts glitching and tearing across the screen (using HGEC body with BBB).

I'm using steam as a launcher and have the deluxe edition with all DLC if that changes anything. What could I be doing wrong? How would I trouble shoot this? I can provide pictures of folders if needed


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Breast stretching: after deactivate LAPF the game use the vanilla skeleton (without breast bones) that's why you have the stretched breasts.

If you want to play without LAPF you must install a BBB skeleton ( universal Skeleton or the LAPF skeleton )

 

LAPF: best install it manually . Or if you use OBMM check after install/activation if you have all files . Unpack LAPF in a folder , then compare the folder with your games folder.

 

game crash: your load order ????

 

Read my yellow Link below ! !

how to install Oblivion ( all you need before you install LAPF)

Link to BBB skelton

How to sort Mods and a example load order

 

 


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Install the LAPF manually.

Get rid of invalidated the OBMM archive.  That is old and doesn't work.  Use Wrye Bash or OBMM to archive invalidate via bsa redirection.  Any other way will give you fits.


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OMG!!! THANK YOU FOR THIS EASY GUIDE! I was a common user of SexDarkness and Sexlivion earlier today. I was stressing out so much with all bugs and errors. But this was straight forward, no bugs, and is great. I just started getting mods yesterday, too! Blessings of Akatosh upon ye! lol


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