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{2017 Feb 22 - Elin Voice Complete Fixed} Tera Elin Race

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#2001
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This may have already been touched on, but bare with me.  Is the reason the Elin race not being compatible with sexlab due to technical reasons, or is there a moral issue with their apparent age?


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This may have already been touched on, but bare with me.  Is the reason the Elin race not being compatible with sexlab due to technical reasons, or is there a moral issue with their apparent age?

 

They look like underage girls.  Age is not the only factor.  Babette is a vampire and far older than everyone else in the DB, but she looks like a little girl.  So age (flagged as 'child') and/or appearance (appear underage) are what determines what race or character is blacklisted from SL.


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Thanks for the kind reply sorry for not much providing details in the first place
Yes i'm using NMM the installer for the 000 files do show up, no haven't use MO.

1. I have the latest one

2. I'm using RaceMenu but i installed NIO anyway

3. I'm not sure the installation says it's installed it even shows the wizard for it and the choice for ticking 000 file haven't checked it manually

4. Yes i'm having problems with loot though, my load order is slightly different than you mentioned, what is the body option filename again ?

5. There's no such option for "Female Animations" but there is "Gender specific animations"

But that doesn't have to do with missing the race to a whole right ?

i'm level 69 i can't even summon anything from that ring, though i can summon other things besides that.

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Greeting again.

 

There are some preliminary actions you can do to avoid additional frustrations.

  1. You're using RaceMenu which has NiO integrated so you do not need to install the standalone NiO.  The standalone version is only needed when using ECE.
  2. Uninstall the the Elin Idle and Elin Dance animations.  They need to be patched for the latest FNIS.  Btw, the FNIS errors you posted shows missing animation files.  This means the files did install correctly.  If installed correctly, you would not receive any errors, but the animations would not play in-game, that is why the Elin animations need to be patched, the animations will not play.
  3. 'Gender Specific Animations' and 'Skeleton Arm Fix' are the options you need to check when running FNIS generator for the Elins.  I say 'female animations' simply because the Elins are females.
  4. Uninstall "2013Sept23_Option_ElinFollowers_2c.7z" because the followers need to be updated or else you may experience crashing when you enter the same location they reside in.
  5. You have the Elin NPC Creation Fix Kit installed for both Elin 1 and Elin 2.  Remove them.  They are meant to be used when creating your own Elin followers or NPC replacer and meant to be installed manually according to the instructions I included with them.
  6. You have the twin-tail hair fix (2015oct26_fix_twintail-hairs-from-elinrace_aio-hairpack.7z) installed, but not the All-In-One hair pack which uses the fix.  The download link to the hairs are added to a list which is available from the LoversLab downloader.  Look for the file "Elin-mods-mega-links-update-2015Dec11.txt"
  7. You are using Amazing Follower Tweaks.  AFT is no longer being supported, but there is an AFT alternative that is based on AFT.  Immersive Amazing Follower Tweaks.   The choice is yours.

Lets start with these and see if the issue got fixed.

   

           

 

 


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#2005
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Hi Again sorry for late reply because the problem is solved but there is new problem

1. I've already installed that
2. Installed that too and the FNIS directory warning error is gone
4. about that, even before i first posted here there is no such followers and i didn't experience ctd related to them, and i've removed them of course as you told
5. Removed that too
6. Actually i even haven't installed that yet, it's just there uninstalled
7. I've tried that but haven't got any followers to try out because recently reinstalled skyrim for reasons below:

So i've solved the elin1 problem probably because your suggestion or/and because i've installed the elin NPC&Enemy pack and then the ring worked though it's causing ctd's when travelling far or fast travel for some reason. The new problem i wanted to tell is that i've uninstalled NMM and tried MO the result is noticeable and can install some mods that NMM cant install but there is one problem is that the FNIS having problems installing the animations for the TeraElinRace2 and i noticed that npc's has no animation too, so as someone who use FNIS and MO too can you help me ?
(Forgive if i'm posting in a wrong topic)
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#2006
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ERROR (9): the index was outside the bounds of the array.

 

Go to your Mod Organizer's Overwrite folder.  Locate where Mod Organizer is installed (mine is C:\Mod Organizer), open the Mod Organizer folder and you will see the OVERWRITE folder.  Open the folder and delete the files and folders inside.

 

Run FNIS Generator again.

 

NOTE:  FNIS does not work flawlessly with Mod Organizer.  You can launch the generator from MO, but once the new FNIS files are created and saved in the OVERWRITE folder, you must transfer those files to a new folder in the MOD folder (found in the main MO folder along with OVERWRITE).  After moving the behavior files to the new folder, name it so that you know what is inside (ex: FNIS Generated Behavior Files for <name of mod>).  Start MO and in the window on the left, select the new 'mod' you just added (the FNIS created behavior files).  This will now add those files when the game starts.  

 

Make sure you do not have non-FNIS files in the OVERWRITE folder when transfering to the MOD folder.  If you use a mod that requires creating a patch (ex: Dual Sheath Redux) then the patch will be saved in the OVERWRITE folder.  You can move the patch to it's own folder withing the MOD folder like you did with the behavior files.

 

FINAL NOTE:  The Elin idles do not work with FNIS 6 and newer.  The animations will not trigger in the game.  This, hopefully, will be fixed.

 

 


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#2007
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UPDATE - Summon Elin Ring v2

 

Attached File  summonelinring update.jpg   252.54KB   16 downloads

 

The summon Elin ring has options to customize the summoning.  When equipping the ring, you will see these menus popup:

 

MENU #1:  2chElin Summon Elin Level

Options:  Weak - Normal - Strong - Very Strong - Auto

Sets the level of the summoned Elin.

 

MENU #2:  2chElin Summon Elin Cost

Options:  1 - 25 - 50 - 100

The health penalty you suffer when summoning the Elins and when they die in combat.

1 = minimum penalty.

100 = max penalty.

 

MENU #3:  2chElin Summon Elin Count

Optioins: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 8 - 16 - 24 - 32 - 48

Select how many Elin you want to summon.

 

 

NOTE:  While you can summon the max amount of Elins at the max health penalty when your player has low-level health, you will not receive the max amount of summons to avoid dying.  Either level up your health or select the minimum health penalty to get all 48 summon Elins.

 

If your computer is not powerful enough, summoning all 48 Elins has the potential to crash your game.

 

I don't have screenshots of the menu options.  Somehow the screencapture utilities I have can not capture the game when the menus appear.

 

IMPORTANT:  I have not tested the update with Werewolf and Vampire Lord transformations because I had to start a new game.  If anyone can let me know if the summoned Elins transform when the player (ELIN) transforms, please let me know.

 

Once I know the update is fully functional, I wll include it with the main race package.

 

REQUIREMENT and INSTALLATION

Summon Elin Ring v2 has been included with the Elin race main pack v2 for both normal and color match edition.

 

Requires the Elin Race main package v1.6 or v1.7.

 

Just install the Summon Elin Ring update and overwrite the previous files that is included with the main race packs.  If using Mod Organizer, I recommend copying the files to where you have the main race package installed and overwrite the previous summon ring files.  The update contains some changes to one of the scripts.

 

 


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#2008
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Update to the Update

 

Don't forget that when summoning the Elins, you receive the "Voice of Elins" shout which will teleport the summons to your location and heals them.  A quick tap of the shout key ('Z' or hotkey you use for shouts) will teleport them to you provided they are within reasonable range.  This will come in handy if you have summon a large group and attack a fort or dungeon crawling for example.

 

 


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Thanks i've solved that (9) problem but can i ask you about this ? it's barely elin related but it's there (ElinMikuHair), So my game has random CTD's that i can't fix it because i don't get it even after i checked it through Papyrus and Tes5Edit so would you help me ? because i never use forums of any kind so i can't think other people for help, Here are my Logs, for the papyrus i use paprus viewer.
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Thanks i've solved that (9) problem but can i ask you about this ? it's barely elin related but it's there (ElinMikuHair), So my game has random CTD's that i can't fix it because i don't get it even after i checked it through Papyrus and Tes5Edit so would you help me ? because i never use forums of any kind so i can't think other people for help, Here are my Logs, for the papyrus i use paprus viewer.
(Forgive me if out of topic)

 

Elin Miku Hair adds 2 Miku-style hairs for the Elins.  It's a very basic hair mod and should work with no issues.

 

Are you having random crashes when trying to select the hairs or are you crashing randomly throughout the game? 


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But when i checked through the Tes5Edit it says the hair has problems, thats why i'm asking you this because i don't understand what the error is thats why i'm posting those logs, And can you help me with those terms ? i mean by terms is the terms in the papyrus and tes5edit logs, i'm new with script terms, i've also tried to search it but it seems my problem is original. example: ddunequip, etc.Yes i have random interval ctd's. Thank you (sorry for oot)
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But when i checked through the Tes5Edit it says the hair has problems, thats why i'm asking you this because i don't understand what the error is thats why i'm posting those logs, And can you help me with those terms ? i mean by terms is the terms in the papyrus and tes5edit logs, i'm new with script terms, i've also tried to search it but it seems my problem is original. example: ddunequip, etc.Yes i have random interval ctd's. Thank you (sorry for oot)

 

I found an error with the Miku hairs.  I'm not sure if that is what you are seeing with in TES5edit because I only found the problem by checking the Elin Miku plugin for errors.  TES5edit will load the records without any warning.

 

I'll update the main files to include the Miku hairs fix and may as well include the new summon ring.

 

 

As for the errors you are seeing in your papyrus log, I need to ask, "are you sorting your load order with LOOT?"  If not, give it try as it can help stop errors that might be caused by the wrong load order.

 

http://loot.github.io/

 

If NMM allows it, you can run LOOT from NMM.


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UPDATE - Elin Race Main Packages v2

 

Version 2 of the main race packages include fixes for the Elin Miku hairs (they were missing the Valid Race forms).

Also included the Summon Elin Ring v2.  DETAILS.

 

Updated Elin Race Main.

Updated Elin Race Main - ColorMatch Edition.

 


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Well i may have worded my word badly, What i mean't is if it's okay with you (and not breaking forum rules) just wanted to ask you about my other mods that are missing something according to Tes5Edit and Papyrus whats the cause and how to fix it. I am asking because you are a modder and i'm new on this site and don't know to ask whom or which section about this and googling doesn't help. So in short i'm asking for protips and suggestion. Again sorry if i'm off topic.
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Well i may have worded my word badly, What i mean't is if it's okay with you (and not breaking forum rules) just wanted to ask you about my other mods that are missing something according to Tes5Edit and Papyrus whats the cause and how to fix it. I am asking because you are a modder and i'm new on this site and don't know to ask whom or which section about this and googling doesn't help. So in short i'm asking for protips and suggestion. Again sorry if i'm off topic.
Thank you.

 

My help is limited because I do not use most of the non-Elin mods that are showing up with errors in the papyrus log.  Many of the errors can be from the game not triggering a script or unable to find them because of situations like a mod has bugs or mod conflicts.

 

The subforum you can ask for help is http://www.loverslab...hnical-support/.  Just post your load order and papyrus log and the more people that looks over the log the more advise you will receive.  Many here will likely be using some or all of the mods you have and know what is causing your game to crash.

 

Just start a topic asking for help with fixing random game crashes.


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@Zarisa69.

 

I sent you a pm.


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UPDATE - Posted link to TawnySexy's Elin Follower created by Follower Creator, her alternative to Familiar Faces.

 


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Hello PsychoMachina, sorry if this has being asked or looks stupid...how do I adapt eyeglasses/spectacles to Elin race?

 

BTW are you willing to make a "normal" follower version of summoned Elin NPCs?

 

Thanks.


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Hello PsychoMachina, sorry if this has being asked or looks stupid...how do I adapt eyeglasses/spectacles to Elin race?

 

BTW are you willing to make a "normal" follower version of summoned Elin NPCs?

 

Thanks.

 

For now, the only way to make eyeglasses properly fit the Elin is to use Blender or 3dsmax.  However, I can add manipulation sliders for common headwear just like I did for Elin 2. 

Tera Elin Race 2 v2.x - New Sliders for Manipulating Elin Hairs, Ears, and Headwear.

http://www.loverslab...ace-2/?p=835024

 

What do mean by "'normal' follower version of summoned Elin NPCs"?

 

 

EDIT

After giving this much thought, I realize that there is no user-friendly way of getting face and head accessories to properly fit the Elin NPCs.  The manipulation sliders is limited to the playable character, but to make the accessories fit ALL Elins the only way is to use Blender.

I can go ahead and add the sliders for the playable character, but I'll have to search for a user-friendly system to use with the NPCs.

 


Edited by PsychoMachina, 02 February 2016 - 03:20 PM.

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Hello PsychoMachina, sorry if this has being asked or looks stupid...how do I adapt eyeglasses/spectacles to Elin race?

 

BTW are you willing to make a "normal" follower version of summoned Elin NPCs?

 

Thanks.

 

For now, the only way to make eyeglasses properly fit the Elin is to use Blender or 3dsmax.  However, I can add manipulation sliders for common headwear just like I did for Elin 2. 

Tera Elin Race 2 v2.x - New Sliders for Manipulating Elin Hairs, Ears, and Headwear.

http://www.loverslab...ace-2/?p=835024

 

What do mean by "'normal' follower version of summoned Elin NPCs"?

 

 

EDIT

After giving this much thought, I realize that there is no user-friendly way of getting face and head accessories to properly fit the Elin NPCs.  The manipulation sliders is limited to the playable character, but to make the accessories fit ALL Elins the only way is to use Blender.

I can go ahead and add the sliders for the playable character, but I'll have to search for a user-friendly system to use with the NPCs.

 

 

Thank you.

 

And sorry for the confusion. By "normal" I mean they live in the game world like other NPCs do, accept player's request to venture with him/her like other followers do.
 


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