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Considering that a) the game becomes choppy only in cities and B) lowering the game's 'Object Fade' slider gains me the most FPS, which meshes should I run through PyFFI?

 

Architecture? Clutter? Rocks? Plants? Something else? All of the above?

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All. Except animated meshes & hair, head clothings.

All of them.

For vanilla bsa, it's fairly safe to do one-click pyffi.

But you may want to check yourself carefully for modded files. Don't forget to back up before doing it and do not delete backup archive until you are pretty sure it's stable.

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Thanks for the tips.

 

PyFFIing all the relevant meshes didn't help, unfortunately. I'm guessing most of them were already optimized (UOP, Better Cities).

Damn Gamebryo, struggling with a bunch of simple sticks and rocks. :(

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PyFFI may be helpful, but may be not.

The very first thing you have to do (and the very last thing you want to do) is lowering graphic options. Or use the stutter remover, streamline, etc.

It seems your memory is not sufficient from what I gather? Its cause could be either due to too many npcs or related to cpu load.

 

But don't trust me too much :cool:

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But don't trust me too much :cool:

Alright, I won't. :D

 

Well, for some reason, only lowering 'Object Fade' gives me back FPS. Which is all about fences, rocks, carts and similar stuff. Lowering 'Actor Fade' does nothing to FPS that I can notice.

Memory would be mostly taxed by resource size, and I optimize all textures I install (even resize them down to 2048 if bigger), so that should be taking care of that. My video card (AMD 5770) has 1GB of memory, my RAM is 8GB and I've made Oblivion.exe 2GB-aware (or is it 4GB?).

 

Ahhh, I don't know what else I can do. It seems Gamebryo and I just hate each other.

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I'm running 64-bit Windows 7. And the CPU is a slightly old 4-core Intel (Quad 2 Core 2.something GHz, IIRC).

 

Hmm, wouldn't the CPU load lessen when lowering the 'Actor Fade' slider, though?

 

My mod list is a bit long, but maybe there's something obvious that I could remove to improve performance (just in cities)?

00 Oblivion.esm

01 CosmeticOverhaulPack.esm

02 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34]

04 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]

05 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.2.3]

06 Fundament.esm [Version ision]

07 cssBase.esm [Version 1.1]

08 CM Partners.esm

09 x117race.esm

0A CustomSpellIcons.esm

0B RealisticLeveling.esm

0C Lovers with PK.esm

0D LoversCreature.esm

++ HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp

0E Invisibility Ring.esp

0F Beautiful_Women_NiceOnly.esp

** Beautiful_Women_DB_Addon.esp

** Beautiful_Women_SI.esp

** Beautiful_Women_Vampires_50.esp

** Beautiful_Women_NotSoNice_Bonus.esp

** Handsome_Gents_Addon.esp

** Handsome_Gents_DB_Addon.esp

** Handsome_Gents_SI.esp

** Handsome_Gents_Vampires_50.esp

** Handsome_Gents_Bonus.esp

10 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.2]

++ BPPP-UOP.esp

11 UOPS Additional Changes.esp

12 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

13 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

14 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.1]

++ USIPS Additional Changes.esp

15 Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0]

16 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

17 TIE.esp [Version 1.48]

** TIE Vwalk.esp

18 All Natural.esp [Version 1.34]

19 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.34]

1A Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

++ Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp [Version 0.2]

++ Symphony of Violence.esp

++ Diverse Voices.esp [Version 0.1a]

1B Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1]

1C All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.34]

1D WindowLightingSystem.esp

1E AFK_PrayerIdles.esp [Version 1.0]

1F DID3_DoubleTrouble.esp

20 ImprovedSigns.esp

21 More Female Servants.esp [Version 1.10]

22 SPARTAN VIs Diverse City Guards v1 2.esp

23 PTRoamingNPCs.esp

** PTRoamingNPCs Vwalk.esp

24 DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp

25 DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4]

26 Get Wet Dark.esp

27 kuerteeCleanUp.esp

28 Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp

29 Streamline 3.1.esp

2A Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1]

** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

++ DV-RobertsM.esp

2B 1SBVampireOutfits.esp

2C BisPainBringer.esp

2D BWisteria.esp

2E SurCoatArmor.esp

2F HGEC SB Clothing.esp

30 Chin CatSuit.esp

++ CSR - Golden Saint.esp

31 Dancers clothes.esp

32 DawnWraith.esp

33 Elisyum.esp

34 Demon Lilith.esp

35 DFSL Leathery 4.esp

36 DM-Elite Witch.esp

37 EY_AoD.esp

38 Full Metal Bikini Mark II.esp

39 Gizmodian - Shell of the Artifice.esp

3A Dual God Rings.esp

3B HentaiDarkLilith.esp

3C HGEC Witch Queen Ritual Robe.esp

3D KDClothCirclets.esp

3E Mage Leather Armor.esp

3F Neck Seam Concealers Expanded.esp [Version 1.1-SI]

40 Neck Seam Concealers Expanded LL.esp [Version 1.1-SI-AT]

41 NexonsArmoryENG.esp

42 Noble Plate Armory.esp

43 Queensarmory.esp

44 ShaiyaOutfit.esp

45 Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp

46 R18PN - Amy Armor Set.esp

47 R18PN - Eisen Platte Armor.esp

48 BBBlackDragon.esp

49 R18PN - Lingeries.esp

4A R18PN - Mina Armor.esp

4B Red Samurai.esp

4C SwordDancerRemodel.esp

4D TrawlolsCorinthianGladiator.esp

4E TrawlolsCorinthianPitFighter.esp

4F Dynasty Recolor.esp

50 Velveteen_Armor_HGEC.esp

51 Slof's Horses Base.esp

52 Slof's Extra Horses.esp

53 Command Mount.esp

++ CSR - Fine Iron.esp

++ ArmamentariumLL.esp [Version 1.35]

++ ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp [Version 1.35]

++ ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp [Version 1.35]

54 FutaPriory.esp

55 Mondstein - female Companion.esp

56 MTCExpandedVillages.esp

** MTCExpandedVillages Vwalk.esp

57 Tavern-Goers 2.esp

** Tavern-Goers 2 Vwalk.esp

58 Colourwheels Sexy Tavern HGEC.esp

59 Colourwheels Sexy Dark brotherhood.esp

5A Colourwheels Sexy Ayelid Shrine.esp

5B Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

++ Real Lava 1.3.esp

5C Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp [Version 1.2.5]

5D Bag of Holding.esp [Version 1.5.0]

5E CHILDREN ANNUAD.esp

++ EVE-CA.esp

5F EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp

++ Dwavenremodel.esp

++ Emperor_F.esp

++ ZealotF.esp

60 Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp

61 Leviathan Soulgems.esp

62 PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43]

63 RMDailyIncomeV2.esp

64 LoversFSE.esp

65 LoversProstitute.esp [Version 0.25a]

66 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

67 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp

68 LoversRaperS.esp

69 LoversJoburg.esp

6A LoversBed.esp

6B LoversPayBandit.esp

6C Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96]

6D LoversBitch.esp

6E LoversCreature.esp

6F LoversSoundCreature.esp [Version 0.1.0]

70 LoversBackup2.esp

71 SSD Surrender or Die.esp

72 LoversAdultYield.esp

73 LoversCalm.esp

74 LoversMagic.esp

75 LoversLight.esp

76 LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp

77 LoversSlaveTrader.esp

78 LSTBravilUnderground.esp

79 ATakesAll.esp

7A RealisticFatigue.esp

++ RobertsM-UD.esp

7B MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5]

7C MCS extension.esp

7D Egress.esp

7E SetEssentialActors.esp

7F TeachSpell.esp

80 SetBody.esp

++ SetbodyBB.esp

81 AutoSetBody.esp

82 StolenItemOwnership.esp

83 SM Combat Hide.esp [Version 1.2]

84 DenockArrowToo.esp

85 'Eagle Eye' Realistic Archery v1.0 Fixed.esp [Version 1.0]

86 HumantouchNPC.esp

++ Level_Rates_Modified_x5.esp

87 zzEDialog.esp

88 zzEstrus.esp

89 zzContainerTrap English.esp

++ TentaclePlant.esp

** Woman's Move - Animation Replacer.esp

8A CM Partners.esp

8B Blood Elves.esp

8C Kaleencolors.esp

8D KaleencolorsP2.esp

8E CuteElf11.esp [Version 1.3.5]

8F AinmhiRace.esp

90 Luchaire's Dryad Race.esp [Version 1.0]

91 Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp [Version 2.0]

92 Lop-ears Elf.esp

** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp

++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp

93 x117race.esp

++ x117Race ENG Race.esp

94 Vampire Race Reloaded.esp

95 Vampire Race Reloaded Patch by Xtudo.esp

96 FLAN - Enayla Demonic.esp

97 X.Moon.Elf.esp

98 X.Night.Elf.esp

** CM Partners Vwalk.esp

99 CM Partner Destara.esp

9A cmAbbeyAeryn.esp

9B cmKittyCole.esp

9C Colourwheels Sexy Pym Companion.esp

9D CMTrixi.esp

9E KaleenCMAmelia.esp

9F CompanionshipRing.esp

A0 cssCalisto.esp [Version 1.1]

A1 cssImoen.esp [Version 1.1]

A2 cssJaheira.esp [Version 1.1]

A3 cssMazzy.esp [Version 1.1]

A4 cssNalia.esp [Version 1.1]

A5 cssSafana.esp [Version 1.1]

A6 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 4.04]

++ 1em_Vilja_as_Blood_Elf_by_Xtudo.esp

A7 companion_deepelves.esp

A8 companion_nightelves.esp

A9 VailenaCompanionValeria.esp

AA DAValeriaCuteElf.esp

** DAValeriaCuteElf Vwalk.esp

AB DATalitha.esp

AC DAJadeAmberSheevaTabaxi.esp

AD DADark Seducers.esp

AE DARaewynCS&R.esp

AF DAGolden Saint.esp

B0 DADryadWilla.esp

B1 Dremora female.esp

++ ArgonianBeautification-RaceSettings.esp

B2 Better Looking Wood Elves Vanilla Black Eyes.esp

B3 EURN.esp

B4 PlomsKhajiitOverhaul.esp

B5 PlomsOrcOverhaul v1.2.esp

B6 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]

++ bgMagicEV-LoversCr.esp

** bgMagicEV Vwalk.esp

++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]

B7 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]

++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]

B8 Birthsigns Expanded.esp

B9 ArgonianFeets.esp

BA PlomsArgonianOverhaul.esp

BB Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.2.3]

++ BC-LoversCr.esp

BC Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.2.3]

** Better Cities Resources Vwalk.esp

BD Alternate Start Revamped.esp

++ VG0SmarterTimescale.esp

** [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp

++ kuerteeEffectDrainShaderInitialGlowOnly.esp

BE bgMagicLightningbolt.esp

BF Shining Creatures.esp [Version 1.2]

** Sensual Walks.esp

** Sensual Walks SI.esp

** Sensual Walks SI DS + GS.esp

** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.34]

** TIE Weapon + Armor Filter.esp

C0 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

C1 LoversMB2.esp

C2 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

C3 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

I don't even use or need about a third of them, to be frank, they just sit there in case I stumble upon them.

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Yes, you would greatly benefit from reducing the number of esm\esp files you have enabled. You could easily whack a chunk out by using Tes4Gecko to combine the small armor\clothing esp files. Take a look at getting ride of some plugins that are script intensive or that you just don't use. A faster CPU would help you some, but pairing down your load order a bit would help you more.

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Well, cutting down the load list by 42 (uninstalling and merging) didn't gain any FPS, but hopefully the game will crash a bit less. Thanks for suggesting TES4Gecko, I forgot all about it. :)

 

On the up side, I did manage to get FPS under control with Streamline's Streamsmooth and Streamsight. So... success, I suppose. :)

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Streamline and OSR (oblivion stutter remover) are both excellent tools!

 

I agree with gregathit on OSR, never tried Streamline. OSR I feel was the one addition that helped me optimize and stabilize my FPS.

 

I currently have an ATI/XFX Radeon HD 6770 1GB VRAM. I hard clamp my FPS at 40 using OSR and I'm able to run 4096 body textures with no problems, on an older machine than yours; 2 core, 4GB RAM. (FSB is another important spec to look at.) I've only moderately overclocked my V-card. There are other even more technical settings in the OSR ini that you can adjust, which I also did. Odds are they would be different for your setup though. Google is your friend there. ;)

 

If you're using the Catalyst ATI/AMD software check those settings too. I remember going away from the default settings, even for my previous ATI card. They are less than optimal for Oblivion as I recall. You can easily spend hours, even days messing with various settings and creating test profiles in Catalyst.

 

And in another thread are links to already PyFFIed mesh sets, I forget which one or ones it was, in case you haven't found them already.

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Streamline is a good company too. Many folks blame Streamline 3.1 that it makes their Oblivion even stutters, it's a half true, half false.

 

Without the 3.1 patch, and more importantly without proper ini settings it wouldn't be a good idea to use streamline 3.1 beta. But once you manage to set up a good ini settings, it's good.

 

It is compatible with OSR. Those two covers different domains. OSR is better as far as FPS control is concerned, so you'll probably want to disable the StreamSmooth feature in sl.ini.

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