Bodyslide UNP v0.4 (30 sliders)

shedidwhat · December 8, 2012

ok, that is a big difference.

"turn off that rubbish ",

any ideal what setting in max is causing that?

mabye coping weightpainting from one body to body another,

or loading the mesh with a different skeleton

and would it have been better if it was exported from max as a obj in

the first place and not a nif ?

SadisticLiquid · December 9, 2012

so universal bodyslide mod that could make all the bodies like cbbe,unp, adec and what else is there isnt possible? im just wondering im quite happy with the ones done already.

stuffed_bunny · December 9, 2012

so universal bodyslide mod that could make all the bodies like cbbe' date='unp, adec and what else is there isnt possible? im just wondering im quite happy with the ones done already.[/quote']

Nope, each body mesh is different, except when they are the same (like CBBE variants).

Bodyslide works by adding indexed lists of numbers to other indexed lists of numbers.

ok' date=' that is a big difference.

"turn off that rubbish ", any idea what setting in max is causing that?[/quote']

No, I have never used Max. But Dragonfly managed to fix the issue, though I can't remember how. I sort of cleared my PM box of all related messages once it had been fixed. Oops.

mabye coping weightpainting from one body to body another' date=' or loading the mesh with a different skeleton

and would it have been better if it was exported from max as a obj in

the first place and not a nif ?

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Obviously the nif is needed. And weight-copying won't help, because the weighting, or rather the scale of the armature, is the bug I'm not sure how to fix.

Let's say the shape (vertex data) is scaled to 90% of original. But in-game the mesh appears to have the correct scale. This suggests that the weighting, or the bone positions, somehow compensates.

Opening up the two nifs in Nifscope, you can see the difference in the bones Translation and Rotation values. Although first you need to apply a [0 2.5443 -3.2879] offset to the Translation of Scene Root. Then compare the bone positions.

Dude500X · December 11, 2012

Immersive Armors has a patch that converts the armors to regular UNP. A slider set for those would be... amazing, infact I'd say it would revolutionise Skyrim.

hell, im going to be bold and probably abit bossy but I think you should convert the Vanilla/Dawnguard outfits first then do the Immersive Armors then do other ones.

Hopefully I dont sound like an ass saying this but I think it would benefit the community more having those two full sets at our fingertips, with the vanilla ones making the world more realistic and the Immersive ones making the world more immersive.

This would also increase your fanbase by a large percentage.

Also, If I were you I wouldn't worry about UNPB yet, get all your UNP conversions done first.

Wow, and I just read what I said, lol, I think my bossy boots has come out of his shell... ah well... dont hate me..

MrTroubleMaker · December 11, 2012

ok' date=' that is a big difference.

"turn off that rubbish ", any idea what setting in max is causing that?[/quote']

No, I have never used Max. But Dragonfly managed to fix the issue, though I can't remember how. I sort of cleared my PM box of all related messages once it had been fixed. Oops.

If someone knows what to do in 3ds max, I would appreciate the answer Thanks!

turbosundance · December 12, 2012

It sounds like my meshes need some work but I'm not sure where to begin. I've tried to base everything off Dimon's original meshes but something seems to have one wrong. I am using 3Ds Max

turbosundance · December 13, 2012

Where can I learn how to make armour/a TBBP body that will support the UNP body slider? Before I continue with what I've been working on, I want to learn to do it the best way possible.

stuffed_bunny · December 13, 2012

Immersive Armors has a patch that converts the armors to regular UNP. A slider set for those would be... amazing' date=' infact I'd say it would revolutionise Skyrim.

hell, im going to be bold and probably abit bossy but I think you should convert the Vanilla/Dawnguard outfits first then do the Immersive Armors then do other ones.[/quote']

Right away, boss. They will all be ready by tomorrow.

Nah, but I will start porting Exeter's pack soon enough. Permissions seem generous enough to only request that credits are given. How long it will take mostly depends on the amount of Nitrishapes, and if bodies are default UNP, custom, or worse (custom cut).

A few things that could help a bit:

1) compare Exeter's meshes with Skinny version ( http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/21776 ), and note down which are compatible (vertex count and distribution)

2) check for possible clipping (boots seem to have problems)

3) are there any bugged meshes?

4) be a Nifscope / Bodyslide_tools wizard and prepare all the shapes for me

If someone knows what to do in 3ds max' date=' I would appreciate the answer Thanks![/quote']

It sounds like my meshes need some work but I'm not sure where to begin. I've tried to base everything off Dimon's original meshes but something seems to have one wrong. I am using 3Ds Max

Dragonfly has been PM'd about the issue, let's wait and see if he has some guidance to share...

turbosundance · December 14, 2012

I greatly appreciate the help. I have noticed seam problems and other odd issues with most of the meshes I've worked with. It's frustrating the hell out of me. I'm very new to all this stuff.

stuffed_bunny · December 14, 2012

I greatly appreciate the help. I have noticed seam problems and other odd issues with most of the meshes I've worked with. It's frustrating the hell out of me. I'm very new to all this stuff.

Possibly I shouldn't recommend Blender and its oldschool interface to a beginner, but then again, why not... at least it won't break your meshes by default. The import/export procedure is incomprehensible at first, but once you have imported/exported a hundred meshes it becomes second nature.

MrTroubleMaker · December 15, 2012

Thanks stuffed_bunny

I've started with 3ds max and tried to use blender, wow is it hard to switch It's so confusing at first.

turbosundance · December 16, 2012

Haha. I've yet to figure out how to actually edit a mesh in blender. Mind you, I haven't spent much time trying to figure it out.

I can handle the old school interface. I grew up using DOS and Win3.1.. I'm going to forget about 3DS Max for the time being and learn blender. The last time I tried blender I was completely new to this and had no idea what I was doing. After using 3DS Max and nifskope a bunch I have a better idea of what I'm doing.

stuffed_bunny · December 16, 2012

I can handle the old school interface. I grew up using DOS and Win3.1.. I'm going to forget about 3DS Max for the time being and learn blender. The last time I tried blender I was completely new to this and had no idea what I was doing. After using 3DS Max and nifskope a bunch I have a better idea of what I'm doing.

If exporting lots of meshes, I can recommend using Caliente's Nifcleaner in addition to Nifscope, can save a few seconds or some hairs from getting pulled. As for weight-painting, I have nothing to share. Would like to get started with that myself, and make some TBBP undies.

Edit: Mini non-vanilla update. Mostly bugfixes, and some new undies. Sorry, been too busy with CB++ to start porting UNP armors.

braxtonkallanar · December 17, 2012

I can handle the old school interface. I grew up using DOS and Win3.1.. I'm going to forget about 3DS Max for the time being and learn blender. The last time I tried blender I was completely new to this and had no idea what I was doing. After using 3DS Max and nifskope a bunch I have a better idea of what I'm doing.

If exporting lots of meshes' date=' I can recommend using Caliente's Nifcleaner in addition to Nifscope, can save a few seconds or some hairs from getting pulled. As for weight-painting, I have nothing to share. Would like to get started with that myself, and make some TBBP undies.

Edit: Mini non-vanilla update. Mostly bugfixes, and some new undies. Sorry, been too busy with CB++ to start porting UNP armors.

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Greatly appreciate what you are doing for CB++ and now UNP. But since the CB++ files are so far ahead of UNP files. Can't you take a break from CB++ and get UNP a little more caught up? Just a thought.

stuffed_bunny · December 17, 2012

Greatly appreciate what you are doing for CB++ and now UNP. But since the CB++ files are so far ahead of UNP files. Can't you take a break from CB++ and get UNP a little more caught up? Just a thought.

My thought too. Unfortunately CB++ requires too much attention. I would really need a maintainer + co-developer to manage the support and fix some of the bugs I typically introduce with every update, like the last one. Maybe after next update, this time it will be stable, surely... :-/

Edit: Actually, I has some time to port a first batch of Exeter armors. Will release in a little while... then CB++ seems to require some attention again. Modders work is never done.

Edit: And first pack of vanilla outfits is up. 15 of the most easily ported armors from Exeter's pack.

Dude500X · December 21, 2012

woohoo, Vanillas.

hurray for mid-late game armors too, downloading now, you just made my day bunny. In the next set could you port Studded Armor though? I'm guessing its one of the harder armors to do since it still has clipping issues on CB++ but it would be awesome to have Studded in because its Low-tier light.

stuffed_bunny · December 23, 2012

In the next set could you port Studded Armor though?

Hmm, hide armor or leather armor? Hide armors will have to wait for next update.

For now, enjoy 15 more Exeter armors. Merry Christmas. :angel:

Dude500X · December 24, 2012

In the next set could you port Studded Armor though?

Hmm' date=' hide armor or leather armor? Hide armors will have to wait for next update.

For now, enjoy 15 more Exeter armors. Merry Christmas.

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If your a women i'd kiss you, if your a man i'd go gay for you.

You are my favourite person right now.

Reckon you'll beable to do Dawnguard armors in the new year?

*foreveraloneguy* · December 24, 2012

SB, really appreciate your work on this. As much as I love CBBE, there are just some things I like better about UNP/B. You're making it harder and harder to choose And that's a good thing.

Dude500X · December 24, 2012

I just love the fact stuffed has done late game armors. thats what really has won me over

yo stuffed, im not sure what your working on at the moment but if possible could you release town and noble clothes? would be sweet as if you could lol.

and now im siding with the stormcloaks.. poor ladys in the imperial army dont have the support for their bodys yet haha, must be why the majority of em are men.

Oh, im not 100% sure but I "think" there maybe clipping around bum bums when all the butt sliders are on max with the theives guild armors, I will test to make sure.

edit: not just theives guild but afew light armors like stormcloaks have minor clipping when running, not game breaking or anything but just a heads up, this is with all the butt ones maxed and thighs at about 60%

edit: awesome, nearly a full vanilla replacer, stuffed, you have to do immersive armors.. you have to... for me.. lol

eDIT: still have some clipping issues around the backside but nothin major. studded armor though has a nipple issue, here is a screenshot of what I mean, please see attached.

I dont know if its a clipping or if its my texture.

stuffed_bunny · January 4, 2013

eDIT: still have some clipping issues around the backside but nothin major. studded armor though has a nipple issue' date=' here is a screenshot of what I mean, please see attached.I dont know if its a clipping or if its my texture.[/quote']

Clipping. Seems I forgot to make a body zap for the hide armors.

But that's just one type of clipping. The other type which I can't really avoid right now, is clipping cause by outfit sliders not growing enough to cover all skin. Outfits are mapped to the closest body vertices, following them in a pretty linear fashion. Sometimes it works well, but not always. It's really not enough to approximate fine-grained curves with coarse straight edges, and the conversion function does not compensate as the curves grow bigger.

When the clothes are done, I'll see about the Immersive ports. Then CB++ probably needs some caretaking.

Dude500X · January 4, 2013

eDIT: still have some clipping issues around the backside but nothin major. studded armor though has a nipple issue' date=' here is a screenshot of what I mean, please see attached.I dont know if its a clipping or if its my texture.[/quote']

Clipping. Seems I forgot to make a body zap for the hide armors.

But that's just one type of clipping. The other type which I can't really avoid right now, is clipping cause by outfit sliders not growing enough to cover all skin. Outfits are mapped to the closest body vertices, following them in a pretty linear fashion. Sometimes it works well, but not always. It's really not enough to approximate fine-grained curves with coarse straight edges, and the conversion function does not compensate as the curves grow bigger.

When the clothes are done, I'll see about the Immersive ports. Then CB++ probably needs some caretaking.

all went way over my head but I'm glad you know how to fix it and that you're considering immersive armors but probably would be better to do immersives once all vanillas and dawnguards is done because I'm thinking doing immersives would be pretty complicated especially with armors like Warchiefs.

I been "discreetly" directing people to this download too, UNP bodyslide needs more attention.

Reducer · January 5, 2013

Hi SB.

I've been checking all the files and it seems that there isn't BS support for the amazing SFW bikini in the original UNP release Was really expecting for it to be there

greee3423 · January 5, 2013

pregancy is not full apply to game?

Dude500X · January 6, 2013

yo stuffed, my homie G my comrade! just wondering will bodyslide bodies work with Temptress race mod? since it also is based on UNP?

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